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Originally Posted by William T. Riker
Most people are doing what Tolle is talking about, "Your beliefs and oppinnions are apart of the I, I am, I believe" instead of being the awarness before the thoughts, this is major if you look at all the previouse conflicts of man, to go against ones oppinnions is not to go against a thought which is irrelivant and not his true self but infact you are threatening the life of that persons oppinnion and belief which is his identity, controlled by the ego,
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Why add the unnecessary level of identification with ones beliefs to explain vehement disagreement? People get defensive of their beliefs because they believe them to be true. That is sufficient explanation.
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Originally Posted by William T. Riker
... i dont look at the words in the book i feel them
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Is this a braille book? If not, that is absolute fucking nonsense. You read them which is a brain process. CAT scan yourself while reading 'normally', then again while 'feeling' the words. The same brain activity during 'normal' reading will be present when you are 'feeling' the words too.
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Originally Posted by William T. Riker
Like Eckhart said "The words are simply guidnece signs to the acheiving destination which is inner peace"
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If the ladder stops short, you can never reach the top, and if the ladder is an immaterial chimera you wont even get off the ground. Read the last two sections of The Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus and all of Philosophical Investigations (both Wittgenstein) because this is a nonsense.
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Originally Posted by William T. Riker
... a word brings in a mental image when spoken, so try to feel his message behind the words instead of logically trying to understand.
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Words are not translated into images or feelings in order to be understood. They are understood as they are. Some people get mental pictures of words others don't, a few people experience smells and tastes relating to words, most don't. This is not a system of translation. If you believe there is a problem with understanding natural language predicates to the extent that they require translation, when you examine it translation gets you no closer to understanding. Read Plato's Theaetatus, Locke's An Essay Concerning Human Understanding, then re-read Philosophical Investigations and some works by the modern pragmatists Dewey, Pierce, James, Davidson and research classic papers in philosophy of mind and language. Then we can discuss this.
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Originally Posted by William T. Riker
Becouse all oppinnions are just oppinnions only thoughts and no one cares about them apart from the ego which is the responsibillity for mass killing dictators, wars and petty conflicts online about "I Think this, I Know this, Im right"
Take away all of the bullshit all your background, appearence, then we are all the same conciousness, just like a body creates the same enery for all other different emotions.
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This is just words, it means nothing. You'll need to explicate the meaning and argue for your assumptions.
I'm still not finished reading Tolle and have already learned a lot from him, there's good stuff in there. However, it seems to me that people with little understanding of mind and language are being lead into unfounded and inconsistent beliefs by Tolle, who also doesn't understand mind and language. If you pit the ontology of Being and Nothingness against that of A New Earth there is no contest. Sartre destroys Tolle like a freight train destroys a fly (and that's not to say there's no truth in the fly).
Peace,
kowalski