I wasn't holding it against her necessarily, but I do see your point. I think my sticking point is my reaction to a beautiful girl.

I ruminated on this earlier. It occurred to me that, through life, I've always been taught, one way or another, that beautiful girls aren't there for me. In school, my group of friends (we were one of the more nerdy groups) included the unattractive girls. All the pretty girls hung around with the more scally lads.

Even for the first three years of Uni, I was friends with nerdy people, and the girls in our group were similarly nerdy and / or unattractive. The fit student girls tended to hang around with the rugby lads and AU jocks.

I have forever been taught that, for one reason or another, I am not worthy of attractive girls. They are up with one class of person, and I am down with another. I have never chosen to believe this. Its just how I've been wired. Its just how my internal programming has been written. I'm not saying it can't be changed - because anything can be changed. But working out how is going to be difficult.

It all means that today, when a genuinely hot girl talks to me, I immediately feel unworthy of her attention. I assume she is on some higher plane than I - and this means I don't feel it is appropriate for me to attempt to seduce her.

Perhaps then it isn't that I value the girl too high. Perhaps its to do with valuing myself too low?

How do I address this? Speak to more stunning girls and get used to the idea that they might like me as well? That's probably the only way really. The more I date attractive girls, the more I open them and have good, solid interactions with them, the more my value will naturally drag itself up.

RE: The cinema and a date - as I said earlier, I'm never doing that again! Its fine once you're through the whole pick up thing. But during - its not a good place to be. I have to say I loved the gallery. It was an opportunity, as K says, to screen her a little and see how imaginitive and creative she was. But also to check she wasn't up her own arse and had a sense of humour.

Actually me and the HB6 had a bloody brilliant time. Its a shame the physical attraction is only weak, because we really had a nice day together.