Kowalski, I realised as soon as I'd posted that there were flaws in the quote you picked up on and I left myself wide open. However I would like to think that most people on this forum are intelligent enough to decipher what I mean. Clearly its not ok to just do whatever you want (although apart of me thinks it would be nice) total chaos and disregard for others would ensue if that was the case, civility would be seriously underthreat.

I mean in the context of pick-up specifically, if a guy see's a girl he likes/wants I say good luck to him if he's willing to take a chance on hooking up with her (through legal means). I for one cannot condone that, in his mind he is taking right action, that is good.

Like I said before, I still don't really know for sure where I stand on this debate. Although I feel of late that I am erring towards if a girl in a relationship is up for hooking up then it demonstrates to me that her relationship is not of such a great significance to her that she feels 100% commital towards it. Perhaps there are underlying issues within her relationship that don't make her feel fully satisfied. In that scenario I think its ok to proceed, but proceed with caution, don't go in like a bull in a china shop have consideration and compassion for peoples feelings where necessary.

One thing I do believe whole-heartedly is if you go around picking up girls in relationships 'just because you can', getting your fill and then discarding them, then you are a cunt I have no respect for that. However if you like a girl who is in a relationship she is not satisfied with and she likes you back (because she is attracted to the true expression of your authentic self, not because you are running game) and you end up hooking up, I don't see a problem with that. I know Nova was in this sort of situation a few months back when he got with his girl so I would like to hear his take on this.

This community teaches some great principles and equally some terrible ones. Often in routine based game techniques like 'Boyfriend Destroyers' and language patterns to try to get a girl to leave her guy for you are lame shit. These sorts of techniques are purely selfish with litte regard for genuine human feelings, the instigator is not entuned with his moral compass whatsoever. This sort of thing I am uncomfortable with and find morally questionable.