You can't get to the bottom of this with short-form articles, like those on wikipedia. Long form reading is essential to do the complex concepts justice.

If this discussion is going to be re-directed to the subject 'Why be moral?', I'll bow out.

2 reasons:
I don't care about people who don't want to be moral. It's too big a job to deal with and writing about it here will be completely inconsequential.
I've been through all this in great depth and have no inclination to to write multi-thousand word essays on the subject.

For those with a genuine interest in understanding this topic, I'll gladly point out some great texts for you to do your own research. After you have read and researched the topic in detail and you're up to speed I'll gladly discuss it with you.


Fact is we have a group of guys here who do want to be good, moral people. Therefore, the question of why becomes mute as there is no one to convince. Meaning we can get down to the task of examining the what and how.


Peace,

kowalski