Originally Posted by CovertOperation

No word of a lie: A few weeks ago I kiss closed a girl in a bar called Chameleon. I went on a day 2 with her a week later. We got to talking about my approach - which on this occasion was based on the custard opener. She was telling me about how guys through the night were coming up to her with those same cheesy lines. She flicked them away one after another. Naturally I asked for more information on this, approach dynamics being something I am fascinated with. She listed a few of the lines, one of which was some guy coming up to her saying 'Ten ton polar bear.... Ten ton polar bear... Ten ton polar bear.......... Well, it broke the ice.'

That's my problem with cheesy lines. As PUAs, we're working on finding new ways to approach girls, and to be successful. The whole point of an opinion opener is to wedge you into a set 'under the radar', so to speak, and to find ways of holding that first 2 minutes of conversation before the real pick up work begins. The whole point of an RSD style direct opener - 'Hey, who are you?' - is to go in blatantly on the radar. The dynamic there is that the girl is impressed with your confidence and plain speaking.

The subtext of a cheesy line is 'I'd like to pick you up, so if you like the look of me then please say so and we can talk for a while. If not, I can still eject saying what a great joke I just played on you'. This is pretty low value.

There's a reason the PUA community reccommends ways around cheesy openers. Its because every AFC under the sun uses the exact same lines, and on any given night, any girl is forever having guys come up to her and recite these things. She will get used to flicking these guys away, one after the other.

As a PUA, its your job to work ways around this, and to make sure you're different to those guys.