People are doing it just do not realise they are I agree. All NLP does is structure what people are doing so other people can learn it. If women even get a hint of someone being weird and creepy i'm sure they would run a mile. Why anyone would intentionally want to make a woman feel bad I have no idea but many men do do it and I suspect these so called forbidden patterns have come from those type men anyway, the ones that give men a bad name. The ones that turn beautiful women into wrecks and ruin it for everyone else.

Kowalski if you would like to watch the video type - in10se october man - into youtube to check out that version. People may still have their opinions but personally the whole PUA thing is about behaving in particular ways anyway so I do not see much difference