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Default 22-12-2011, 12:26 PM

Just to clear something up, there is one reason why our traffic dropped.
It has nothing to do with trends, popularity or anything other than the fact that Google penalised us.

See the attached image for clarification. The arrow points to the date I received an email from Google stating that we had been penalised. Bear in mind that over 70% of our visits are from new visitors.



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Default 22-12-2011, 01:15 PM

If we wanted to really increase traffic to this site we would do some of the following:

Facebook,Twitter page - with links back to the main site
Posters on here would also post on other online forums having links back to our site in their signature and referncing articles they pulled off this site
Create online articles on a different webserver/domain taking about pickup etc and have references back to this forum.

this is all classic SEO work - wont get you penalised by google and will make google give you credibility,
you will not only get new blood to the forum who hapen across all your pages as above-- BUT you`ll also get ranked much higher in search engine results
i dont know how you got penalised by google but doing thinks like createing blank pages with puaforum.co.uk etc in backgroudn colour txt will!


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Default 22-12-2011, 01:38 PM

I know a dude who is quite good with SEO optimization.. he might be able to lend a hand..

Though he is a bit of a douche, he is a geek
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Default 22-12-2011, 02:30 PM

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If we wanted to really increase traffic to this site we would do some of the following:

Facebook,Twitter page - with links back to the main site
Posters on here would also post on other online forums having links back to our site in their signature and referncing articles they pulled off this site
Create online articles on a different webserver/domain taking about pickup etc and have references back to this forum.

this is all classic SEO work - wont get you penalised by google and will make google give you credibility,
you will not only get new blood to the forum who hapen across all your pages as above-- BUT you`ll also get ranked much higher in search engine results
i dont know how you got penalised by google but doing thinks like createing blank pages with puaforum.co.uk etc in backgroudn colour txt will!
I'm a professional web developer. You're right, we need to embrace social media. I will get on it.

Cloaked links will get you penalised you're right. It was nothing this basic that got us slapped, I believe it was a bigger algorythmic factor, including suspicious link patterns. Not worth dwelling on now.


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Default 22-12-2011, 02:32 PM

what about allowing some advertising onto the forum
What about Phils new business
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Default 22-12-2011, 07:57 PM

Based on 200 visits/day, we'd probably bring in less than £1 per day with google ads. Probably about £0.50 per day. There's no point.


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Default 22-12-2011, 08:29 PM

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It has come to my attention that there needs to be a section for beginners, as some new guys are becoming overwhelmed by the advice given by senior members.

Sometimes it's hard to remember exactly what it's like when starting out. Remembering actually using those canned routines, false time constraints and scripted openers seems comical. Surely, the natural method works better right? Well, there was a reason we used fake canned shit. It worked.

New guys don't need to be told to be confident, alpha or natural. They're not ready for that. They want tools they can use so they can focus their attention on just opening and interacting with girls.

There are guys signing up who have never talked to girls in clubs that they have just met.

So, should we have a 'Beginners' section?
Confident guys very quickly forget what it feels like to be new.

New guys ask the most questions and post the most field reports. Therefore create the most online traffic. Criticizing these guys harshly scares them off.

As to being natural, the RSD stuff is impressive for guys with some good experience. I can now see how some guys are taking this honesty stuff literally.

However telling a new guy to be himself is just useless. Its advice any random stranger can give.

Some guys who give advice can be more polite about it. That’s if they want it to be absorbed. The question is is the guy giving advice wanting to force his will on the guy and seeking validation. If the advice is polite then this question need not be asked.

Being natural is an oxymoron. If guys were natural they would not be in this community.

A combination of being natural as to what I see as good inner game stuff combined with learned stuff is good. Whereas just being natural all the time is just plain lazy!

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Default 23-12-2011, 01:39 AM

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A beginner’s forum may well be a good idea but I think a lot of us have to change our attitude towards new guys as we are not very accommodating to them anymore. The constant bickering and snarky humours needs to be toned down too, it’s almost become PUAchan this place.
I have to make a point of saying this tho Jaz.Im fairly newish on this forum and its the only one i use, because people on here tell me straight how it is and i respect that,if i being a knob they will tell me that and thats what i need to here sometimes!!!
I agree with you totally no one wants any potential new members scared off from this forum.But i would also hate for this to become some wishy washy forum treating other members with kid gloves and walking on egg shells so as not to hurt their feelings,when what they may need from time to time is a good kick up the bum!!


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Default 23-12-2011, 12:43 PM

78% of the votes is enough. I'm creating a beginners section!


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