good stuff. opening 2 sets and 3 sets is impressive for day game imo! even if it was canned!

the more you do it, the more you will not have to worry about ure body language etc etc and just be able to concentrate on you and the girl. the interactions will become far easier.

Was good to meet you today dude. You showed real balls with that first approach and caught me totally off guard, kudos for that!

As a newbie, it was a real eye opener and a positive experience sarging with wingmen rather than as a lone ranger and I'm looking forward to ripping up them clubs on Saturday...I can hopefully use my student dicsount card as well and save a few quid

Adam - yep definitely mate with the body language thing. After a few weeks of practice, I've already instinctively learned to pull my hands out of my pockets before approaching, and use them dynamically through the set to help with expression, control and energy. As ever today, once I got through that first set in the coffee shop, and then a further opener in the street, I would have talked to anyone...

Deano - good meeting you too mate! And I genuinely mean what I said - before even meeting you, I'd spotted you in Costa Coffee without realising it was you and thought "Fuck, that bloke's got well cool hair!"

Thought you did well today as well mate. Your big goal was to beat your AA - I thought you did that very well! We all have it to begin with, but as I think you found, AA just melts away after an approach or two.

And even if the girls don't speak English, you don't know that until you've opened them!!

To the next sarge comrades! Come ride with me, through the veins of history...

Thanks dude, now where's the :blushes: emoticon

Haha, just my luck. Defeat my AA and build myself up to open and the fecker doesn't even speak English

It'll be fun alright, any ideas on where we're gonna go?

Met my mate in town for lunch. Wasn't planning any game, but it didn't quite go that way, and what happened was actually very interesting.

We went a fried chicken place. Got seated, and then went up to order. 2 tills being worked by girls, one HB5 and another HB9, gorgeous, blonde, big eyes, tanned... Fantastic! (quick side comment: Aren't girls bloody brilliant?!?!)

So me and my mate are queueing, and I click into Game mode. Open my body language, full of energy, talking to my mate about fun stuff, smiling and laughing. Broadcasting "We are having a good time here, you can join us if you want..."

As luck as it, we got the HB9 to serve us. We go up to her till. She asks what we'd like. My mate very kindly says "I'll get this... What do you want?"

"You'll get it?" I ask, flashing the HB9 a knowing smile. "Bloody hell, that's a pretty amazing result..."

And suddenly, and this is the bit I really, really like, she burst out laughing. She thought it was absolutely hilarious! I have no idea why - what I'd said wasn't particularly funny or anything. But she was suddenly really enjoying the interaction.

I wasn't about to let her off the hook that easily. I was still standing side on to her, looking at her over my shoulder, facing my mate, broadcasting: "I am still talking to my friend, you are still a guest in our conversation". I grinned, and said "Bloody hell, that's not very professional is it?"

She laughed more, before regaining her composure. We ordered, with lively conversation and gentle ribbing of her throughout. Looking back this was an unconcious application of David DeAngelo - never give a straight answer. So:

HB: Do you want spices?
CO: What the fuck are spices?
HB: How hot do you like your chicken?
CO: That's a very personal question.
HB: Haha, no, look here, you can have four different levels of spices.
CO: You're so pushy! Maybe I don't want to tell you!
HB: Well you need too so I know what to ask for.
CO: What's your favorite?
HB: I like mine very spicy.
CO: Great. I'll go for medium.

I was picking up on a bit of an accent, probably European. Suddenly, I turned away from my brother, and faced her square on, leaning towards her on the counter and staring her down. Suddenly I was broadcasting "I have switched my focus to you. You are now the centre of my attention."

I looked at her with a smile, and said "I'm getting an accent. You're not from Liverpool, are you?"

She said no. My mate (poor kid, he must have felt so left out!) said it sounded like Newcastle.

CO: No, I don't think you're British. I think European.
HB: That's right.
CO: So where from?
HB: Guess.
CO: Ok... Say something and give me a clue.
HB: Like what?
CO: Say "sauna" [I thought she was swedish]
HB: [laughs even more]
CO: I know that laugh... Germany?
HB: No.
CO: Poland?
HB: Yes!
CO: Really, that's so cool, I'm going to Poland next month.
HB: Really?! Where?
CO: Erm... I'm not sure how you pronounce it... Waclaw?
HB: [Laughs more}
CO: Obviously that's wrong...
HB: You mean Vaclav [I think that's what she said!!]
CO: I guess I must do.
HB: Well I hope you have fun. What drink do you want with your meal?
CO: Erm can I have a can of coke... In fact no, I'll have a glass of coke.
HB: [Laughs even more. At absolutely nothing. Fuck...]

We paid up and left. And this is where I'm kicking myself: Why, oh why, didn't I fucking try and number close?! My mind set (see above) is still on learning game and opening. I haven't got round to the whole 'close' thing yet. It was so easy, the whole interaction went absolutely perfectly. All it needed was for me to say, 'So look I'm gonna go eat my chicken. But how about you give me your number - I need someone to teach me how to ask for directions and order water melon in Polish'. But I didn't.

The stupid, stupid thing is, the reason I didn't close wasn't because I bottled it. It was because at no point did I think 'Right, time to close'. At no point did I intend to close. Which is just ridiculous.

So, lots of positives to take from what was a thoroughly enjoyable experience. But one big negative, which needs to be addressed: I need to begin to think about closing. I am learning to open, I am learning good game. Yesterday I opened sets everywhere (including fucking 15 year olds... :s), I opened with direct game, and today I had a perfectly executed interaction with a really gorgeous girl.

But, I need to learn to close. Not even that - I just need to start thinking about closing. I just need to learn, not to go into an interaction thinking 'I'm going to close', but at some point during interactions to begin to think 'this is going well, and there is some potential to close this girl. So lets do it...'

But overall, the positives here far outweigh the negatives!

Naah braah, dont think of closing, you'll get stuck in your head and she'll close up.

You did great, stayed natural and this vibed better than you thinking gotta close gotta close...

Be natural and make an excuse to see her based on what you've talked about, like you said, I could use some polish lessons, its a natural extension of the conversation and you could have closed based on that.

But stay out of your head, dont go in thinking gotta close, it'll fuck your shit up.

Just have fun.

It sounds like you are running 'no blow out' game. You can't be blown out because you're just making conversation. Right?

If you're not gonna close, why open? Sure it's good to be a social guy, if that's what you were being. Being social wouldn't account for the fact that you are mainly being social with hot girls.

Given your motive, it is insane not to close.

That's not to say I close every fit girl I get on with, because I don't. Sometimes I exhibit weakness, I still want to close I just loose my cool occasionally (yes even me ;-)).


Peace,

kowalski

Co, shud have numberclosed the polish girl! fo sho!!!!!!

Pic.

I hate how right you are sometimes...

Well, I think in my head I've developed this defence mechanism. At present, I am learning to open girls, and that's what I'm practicing. Having 30 second conversations with girls, and not allowing a desired outcome route me through the conversation. Just letting it flow open ended. This is being done mostly consciously, since I am learning piece by piece (plus with the help of The Rules of the Game).

Through the set today, my thoughts 5 seconds after were "that was a really good interaction with a girl. That is good progress. Well done."

However, 5 minutes later, I had moved onto "Hang on - I should have closed there."

Today represents a watershed for me, then. The time for just opening girls has passed now. Truth is, when I'm winged, I will happily go and open any set you ask me too - precisely because, as you say, I know without a desired outcome, I can't be blown out.

Well, the time has now come to take a few steps further. I now need to push on in these interactions, and when possible, consider moving towards a close. I think, as Dolphin says, this shouldn't become a preoccupation, as I'll really fuck up my balance.

But when the opportunity presents itself from now on - as today - I need to close.

So the new strategy is to go in hoping to have a good interaction, and not worrying about closing at all. However, if the interaction goes well, then push for a close.

This is the next step.

Perfectly Put Pall.


Peace,

kowalski