Had a similar experience, although it turned out that she had a twin sister .
I'm not sure if Adam was too pissed to remember, but we had the most fucking awesome idea in the world - a PUAForum bus. With the mandatory "danger, do not talk to these men" decals.

Although, coming to think of it - the bus would look more like this.

I'm so glad I spent 4 years (honest) of my life learning to use photoshop.

Why thank you Dave! Yours is lovely too xx

Did I seem drunk?! I was drinking water on Saturday night!!! But yes I do remember co-suggesting this. I think it would be perhaps the best idea in the world ever. You get the bus, the driver, the paint, the brushes, the ladder and the artist, I'll get some tea bags!

No problem mate, hijack away!

And deffers lets do it again next month - the Monthly Manc Mash-up! Although you're free to stay at mine next time instead of shelling out for a hotel. I've got a sofa and a sleeping bag with Monkeybuster written all over it.

I already have a plan formulating involving this very thing… See, I currently live in a student house with 4 other students. However, after this week, they are mostly going to be going home for the Easter break. Meaning I have a house with 4 empty beds and a few sofas.

I might just host a “Puaforum.co.uk Goes To Liverpool” evening sometime very soon…

In fact, on behalf of all the frustrated AFC'd girls of Liverpool, I feel it is my duty to scousewomankind to bring you lot over to meet them all!

Watch this space.

Dibs on a room!!

Was awesome to meet you and the other peeps I hadn't met before, loving your potatoshop skills, 4 years well spent

I'm on this next time. Hammered it too hard with Hustler the Fri night down Rockworld... altho he managed to power through both nights! Good to meet Monkeybuster for a quick pint earlier that evening tho.

Yeah mate! Cheers for looking after me! Was great to meet you too! Hopefully we'll rip Manchester up together soon!

Had a few hours in the field tonight with Relentless, who has assured me he will post a field report tomorrow. We only did about 2 hours or so - I had a band practice until 10pm, and up early tomorrow for work so didn't want to burn myself out on a Tuesday night. But it was well worth it, and it actually felt great to get out and back in the field after the total nonsense of the last few days.

Highlight of the night for me was completely abandoning my opinion openers! (FANFARE!!!) I didn't open a single set tonight asking a girl or group of girls for an opinion on something. Fanbloodytastic, it felt absolutely great to be having genuine two way conversations with girls from the beginning.

The first was in an empty Heebie Jeebies - asking a passing two set for ideas on where to go on a slow Tuesday night, which led into a brief conversation about student bars.

The second was in the Flute. There was a large group of younger looking people in there dressed up - tuxedos, ball gowns, that sorta thing. I asked a two set near the door what was going on. She said that they were all 6th formers and it was their speech night (what in God's name is a speech night???).

We rolled into a brief conversation, and then I ejected. But this pissed me off. Why the fuck did I eject? I had opened, and she seemed to open up to me. Of course she did - she was possibly no more than 17, and this was a massive part of her 'being a grown up' fantasy, going to a bar and getting hit on (in 5 years time, she'll routinely flick guys away who do this to her). So why the hell did I come out so easily??? I need to stay in my sets. This remains an issue, from several weeks ago.

The final set was in Hannah's bar, which had filled up by the time we walked back past. We headed in, and I spotted a four set away to my left. I went in, once again with a non canned opener... Although again I was only asking why some other guys over the other side of the bar were wearing tuxedos. We got to talking. Relentless came in and winged away one of the girls while I isolated with another - HB8, dark hair. Good skin (skin is important to me. I don't appreciate girls covered in make up.)

And this time, I stayed in set. She did make it easy to do - it was actually her birthday. And this is the bit of the night I am most proud of: a 100% conscious application of the improv concept of 'Yes, and...'.

It went like this:

CO: So whats the occasion - you're all very smart tonight.

HB: Its my birthday.

CO: No way! Happy birthday! <Hugs> So go on, mandatory question, how old are you.

HB: <Grins coyly>

CO: Hah, I'm sorry, I know I shouldn't ask a girl that.

HB: Guess.

CO: I'm not sure, you'll get well offended if I get it wrong.

HB: I won't, go on.

CO: Ok... You're obviously 18 today <She obviously wasn't - this was designed as a David DeAngelo 'Don't answer anything straight>.

HB: Haha, as if! Is that important to you then, to only talk to 18 year old girls?

CO: Yeah, totally. Its a good job you're not 19 today, or I'd probably just bugger off!

She laughed at this, and we rolled off into conversation about all sorts.

I say this was 100% conscious, and I mean it. Right before I said it, I became conscious that I should agree with her. And right after I said it, upon realising I'd said it, I felt like doing somersaults! I am learning. Slooooooowly. But I am learning.

The set bombed 5 minutes later when she said she had a boyfriend. I tried to maintain state, but I can't say I wasn't a little disappointed at this. I'd gone kino with her, and she had reciprocated. Short of an extraction, I wasn't going to get a kiss close anyway due to a few dynamics - a low key bar, bright lights, her 2 friends standing there idly chatting (although, as I say, asking her friends "if I could just borrow her for 5 minutes as long as I bring her back in one piece" would have been fine to take her off to some sofas and work on a kiss close). But, given we had a fun conversation and that she was responding to Kino, I was hopeful of a phone number. Perhaps I should still have gone for it despite her boyfriend (no, I don't want to discuss the ethics of attraction right now!)

I didn't bother looking for IOIs at any point. She was still talking to me, so as far as I was concerned, she was interested. She probably was. Ah well - it'll happen again soon enough. We can but plough on.

Positives

1. I didn't use a single canned opener tonight! Possibly for the first time ever in my pick up career, I have had a night out that didn't involve a single conversation about custard! I consider this to be a major step in the right direction, and if I can integrate that into my long term game, I will be a much more effective operator for it.

2. A conscious application of the 'Yeah, and...' principle.

3. Little trace of AA, even in high value sets (the HB8 girl was overdressed for Hannah's Bar)

Negatives

1. I am still ejecting too quickly from a majority of my sets. Say what you want - 'Make the ho say no', plough, whatever else. I need to stay in set longer, more often.

2. Tonight, whilst I did consciously apply 'Yes, and...', I didn't apply Juggler's 'statements plus questions' principle, and once or twice asked closed ended questions which could have stifled conversation. I was pleased that I did this at the weekend, less so that it still needs to be consciously applied. But hey, I'm learning in wee bitesize chunks.


So, I have some stuff to work on, and more stuff to be fairly pleased with!

Onward, brothers...

Yessir!

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Respect man. This is a moment to celebrate.


Side note: "Yes and ..." is an improv thing not a Juggler thing though he talks about it.


Peace,

kowalski

Apologies. Edited accordingly, thanks K - I've read and re-read Juggler so much over the last few days I think I'm just attributing him with everything! "This is the Juggler concept of eating a banana for breakfast... This is the Juggler concept of parking my car badly..."

Looking back to last night, as an extra point, there is one more thing I didn't do that I should have done. Twice, I caught girls making eyes with me. And I looked back and held their gaze. That's good - in the past I'd have done anything to avoid looking back.

But did I take my que and go and speak to either of them? Of course I bloody didn't! I just stood there. All I had to do was go and introduce myself. But I didn't.

This is something I need to get handled, really. These should be the open goals of pick up. The hard work is done. The girl's RAS is already zoned in on you (copyright Tyler). She has already given an IOI. She has practically held up a massive sign with great big neon yellow letters that say "COME AND TALK TO ME".

All you need to do is slot the ball lazily between the posts, and go and talk to her. You don't even need to worry about the shot being good or having good approaching technique. The hard work has been done for you.

Hmmmmm...