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07-03-2010, 06:35 AM
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10-03-2010, 06:05 PM
Let me tell yer, there's nothing like getting blown out 4 times in a row to bring you down a peg or two.
I went day gaming again today for an hour or two, and it was the strangest experience I've had since going out sarging.
I started out feeling on top of the world today. I got into town and literally felt like I could approach absolutely anyone. An extremely cut blonde was sat on a bench as I was walking past and I went straight in. We had a funny little chat, she was actually a bit young for me. 18 is the same age as my little sister, and after I found out her age I had decided I wasn't gonna try and go for the close, but regardless she had a good sense of humour and we had some giggles.
So I was feeling pretty damn confident at this point and spotted a pretty fine ass looking girl in a shoe shop stood waiting to greet customers by the doorway, and she smiled at me so I thought 'thats it now babe you can't smile at me like that and expect to get away with it!', so I went in and said e "I'm not interested in buying any shoes but I am interested in talking to you". This was easily the best interaction I had all day, and altyhough she didn't give me her number, cos she's got a boyfriend booooooooooo, she did insist on taking mine and gave me her name for face book. So we'll see how that one pans out.
Anyway, enough bragging, cos it certainly wasn't all roses let me tell yer. After this I completely started to bollox up. I approached one extremely sexy asian girl in TK Max, and she looked at me like I was asking for money or something. So anyway I laughed it of and carried on. Next I opened a girl in the mall outside of TK Max. An interesting looking woman with dreadlocks, but extremely pretty and a smoking bod. She was receptive, but just thanked me for my compliment and put her headphones back in. Sooo I thought fuck it, no biggy and went onward. Stopped a girl outside HnM, a tall brunette with looks that could stop traffic (in the good sense) and she was just like "sorry I've got to go!" leaving me stood there like a big issue seller, gutted. And then to top it off I tried stoppiung another girl in the street, and she just said "Sorry, no thanks!" Huh, I feel broken! Getting this many rejections in a row is just not good for a mans head. I'm doing my best to focus on the positive sets I had to begin with, but I'm finding it really hard to shake this chodey feeling. Hopefully it will pass!
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10-03-2010, 06:25 PM
To be honest this sounds WAY more positive than negative! You had good interactions with as many girls as lack of response - 50/50 is a f*cking good ratio. Just a shame it came after the good times I guess.
I'd pat yourself on the back mate, you did bloody good.
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10-03-2010, 06:42 PM
Yeah your'e absolutely right man. I think it's just cos i left it on a bad note that i'm pissed really. I just hope it doesn't affect my day game.
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10-03-2010, 08:03 PM
I wouldn't even class those as rejections. Have you ever worked handing out flyers? There's a clip on youtube from that Auzzie show I can't remember the full name of ____'s War on Everything where they were standing in the street offering $20 bills and people are swerving to get away from them. Some people ain't stopping for anything.
You've read Juggler's stuff, right? He makes an important point about attention. I was reading a paper on neuro-science the other day that explains what is going on behind that phenomenon. Juggler says when you approach in the street people's minds are focused on a whole load of shit like where they are going, why they are going there, whether they are making good time, what they are gonna have for dinner and so on. Therefore, when you approach people tend not to hear the first few words you say because their head is elsewhere. Juggler advises that you use a few filler words that can be literally anything, just waffle state what is happening like 'Here we go, I'm gonna talk to you now' for example, or just anything will do, before you tell her what you want to tell her. You can see in their eyes when they've refocused attention on you.
The paper I was reading was about the brain's executive network. The executive network, loosely speaking, is what controls where they your attention or awareness is focused (that's right Tolle Dollies awareness is a brain function not something seperate from the brain). It does this by dialling up and down activity in other parts of the brain, kind of like a graphic equaliser (like I said - loosely speaking). This is how you are able to scan sheets of text looking for a specific word and it seems to just jump off the page while all the other words just look like squiggles.
Anyway some experiments they did showed that the average brain takes about 4 seconds to refocus itself on some new task like listening to what this random guy is talking to you about. So that's approx. 4 seconds you've just got to sit through and one way is with some filler waffle.
This problem is less prevalent in the club because people tend to already be focused on and looking for external stimulation.
Food for thought I think you'll agree.
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10-03-2010, 08:08 PM
Dude! I think this is quality! The results you got are very good! Just forget the blow outs. It's happened before... it will happen again.
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10-03-2010, 08:21 PM
Food thought indeed. That is an interesting bit of information, one that I have surprisingly never considered. Especially in the week when people are busy bodying around to and from work or shopping around quickly before teatime. This certainly makes sense and causes me to be a bit less harder on myself.
I've not actually read Jugglers stuff yet. I do intend to, as I do intend to read a load of other stuff. I remember Blanca said he would email me Juggler Method (Blanca where you at?)
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10-03-2010, 08:31 PM
Here you go. All excellent, short, easy to read and full of good natural insights (the first one has some more structured stuff like forcing IOIs and other bits he was trying out when he first started at this and is more a collection of his forum posts than a real book).
Juggler Method- Conversational Jujitsu | Scribd
http://www.uoregon.edu/~kludwigs/S&W...p%20Artist.pdf
How to Meet and Connect With Women | Scribd
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10-03-2010, 08:55 PM
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Don't break the law, piracy is for pirates and they all end up with one leg and one eye ... or something.
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Damn it I knew there'd be consequences!
Cheers for the links.
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10-03-2010, 10:10 PM
SJ, the first time I met you, you could barely look me in the eye whilst we talked over a pint, now you are confidently hitting on random women on the street. All within the space of 6 months.....If that's not progress I don't know what is. You're doing awesome mate!
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