Dont know why yr being so hard on yrself pal.

Like u just said, 5month ago u couldn't stop someone & ask for directions, now u'v got girls textin u & yr showing them yr salsa moves. Pat yrself on the back m8t u deserve it

You said u have come along way..... COS U HAVE.

If you think a Bootcamp will help you out, go for it.

To go from talking to no-one, to messing about with hot chicks in cool bars is massive.

You don't have oneitis. What you are feeling is perfectly normal. It's only oneitis if she isn't interested and doesn't know you exist. You and this girl have a mutual attraction thing going on, which is very different from oneitis. It's good that you feel like this otherwise you'd be an emotionless socio-path. I think her flakiness is related to the lack of social skills that drove her to use the internet in this way. From what we've talked about, she totally likes you. Call her out on it.

Not going to try to talk you out of a bootcamp. Although I will say this being cool, by definition, is not something you can buy. Cool can not be bought. Fact.

A bootcamp is not your last and only hope. Again I'm not trying to talk you out of it there are just some alternative suggestions:
For EC just look at peoples' eyes. That's it that's all there is. Simple.

For clothes, hang out with my girl some more. Not only is this free, it's a 121 thing and not just for a few hours for as long as it takes.

For body language, you may be better off with an expert in the field. My BL has always been decent and only needed minor adjustment, still I learnt a lot from the Alexander Technique. People who study this know more about posture than any PUA trainer. My friend actually hired an Alexander Technique expert for 12 weeks of sessions. He now has absolutely awesome body language. I'll get the details (cost, contact etc.), if you're interested. Pretty sure it'll be shitloads cheaper than a bootcamp, for much more time with the expert, and they trully understand posture (unlike a PUA trainer).


Oh, and talk to yourself nicer. None of this last hope shit. If you don't think you're worthy, she wont either. Adam is always pushing The Power of Now by Tolle. Check it out, it's genius and, will help you kill your ego, discard your social conditioning and experience more happiness and self-love.


Lastly, if you want to see the Tim style opener in action and gauge what kind of responses it gets, I will gladly run it on any girls you point at all night so you can see it in action. I've not used those specific words before, so it'll be a fun learning experience for us both.


Peace

If you can PM me the details man, that would be awesome

I'll find some tolle stuff as well and have a read.

Cheers man

Retro

I had to cut my last post a little short as i was off out. The bit about EC, was not just looking at people, its about what my Eye's are actually saying. When we were out on the Friday night, there was that 3 set in Wallrus (the 2 married ones and the 1 single one that anthony number closed), anyway one of the married said to me "you have a GF", as she was married i thought i'd humor her to see where she was going with it, she said she could tell as it didn't come accross like i wanted anything unlike the others.

So like i say, its not actually making eye contact, but is what they are communication and how to change it, along with the body language and everything.

Retro

That is about what you are thinking and feeling about yourself, her and the environment you are in. The only way you can change what you are sub-communicating, is by changing what you think and feel.

I text next man about the Alexander Technique. Thought I'd stick it up here rather than PM so if others are interested they can benefit from it too. Here's his reply:

"Hey. Yes her name is lucy asham she teaches at a place called bodywise in manchester I have dont have her number anymore! We are friends on facebook. So i can get her details ! And txt them to you . She does workshops and 1 to 1. I had 1 to 1 lessons £30 for a hour! I think the workshops are less. Weekend cool ! I'm reading the game again.. Lol. Hows yours been? Wild weekend ! Lol . I've sent her a message via facebook she should reply with number ! Or her e-mail adress is www.withpoise.co.uk"

I hate 'lol'. Why do people use it? It's stupid.


A little background. Alexander Technique was created by a singer who's career was cut short through throat strain. He started to closely examine the musculature of his neck, and found unnecessary stiffness through contraction of muscles not related to the movement he was performing. He became obsessed with the correct positioning of the spine and usage, or more accurately mis-usage, of the spinal muscles. You've got to be thankful that some people become so single-minded and release great gifts of knowledge on the world.


Peace

Hey K,

Thanks for the information bud. Spent Tuesday evening googling and reading about Alexander technique and decided it was something I could do with especially considering I do spend 8 hours a day sitting on the computer, regular weight training and straining my back all the time. And hopefully it will improve my body language too. Spoke briefly to Lucy yesterday and I booked a first session + consultation with her on Tues early evening, cost £55 and we will take it from there. If anyone want to contact her, mobile number is on her website www.withpoise.co.uk !!

Im looking forward to it now and if anyone else interested I will report back on the !!!

Thanks again.

Well because of terry, I'm back writing these things again... About time you posted one my friend :-).

Anyway I should of had a day one with a very spechial girl but unfortunatly she's ill so it got called off. Bummer :-( really got great feelings about this girl, different to everyone before, didn't sleep Thursday night or Friday night as I have been that excited about it. Top girl. As u can tell I'm very happy about even just thinking about her. My only reservation is that I might be getting everything I want a little too soon, as I want to suceed but my game might not be good enough.

Anyway becuase of this I ended up going out with the Manchester lot, Darood Madforit Sapmi Anthony and legend. Very funny night, loved every minute if it guys. The funniest bit was anthony opening the four black women in full gown things in the street. My night started early, opened a yen party while I was walking up to kro, opened while at the bar in kro but only very short interactions. When we bounced to Oxford road end it was dead, Darood and Anthony were already in set and there was only one other set so Madforit got me to open (cheers man), then he winged me a short while after. Was a good set as we were there a while and the brunette I ended up chatting too was cute as well :-), there were some good hooks in the conversation which i never really pulled on and should and could have, i know now we could of done more with that, but it was hard to isolate as threads kept crossing, but it was great, another seated set opened and had real chance if i'd of just worked a bit harder. opened another set in blu but forget to stack or change subject, idiot!! As the girls seemed quite interested when I started, didn't click that the opener was shit and kept pushing it rather than just doing "so how do you guys know each other" and chaning subject, some times the brain just does not function. It was a learning experiance anyway!

Things to do for next week. Well I'm going to learn some canned openers, just to get me in set more.. Cheers Madforit. I will get there, this year is going to be awesome :-), i can scense some good things will happen very shortly and it will just click and fall into place, i've talked to more strangers in the last 6 to 8 weeks than i have in my entire life, you guys are the most supportive and helpfull people i've ever met, i wouldn't swap anything right now, now is awesome and is only going to get better, i just wish i'd of started this journey 5 years ago.

Peace guys

U handled the set in Space very well fella, even if i had 2 twist yr arm up ya back to do it

U approched with confidence, held court and kept the conversation going.

Keep it up man ;-)

cheers Mate, I have covered that interaction a few times in my head. I could of done so much more, as i was thinking after i sat down that i just wanted out of set as we kept crossing over between target and obsticle. I will stick with it more next time and i'm going to have to try and push for a number and close as i didn't notice how cute the brunette was untill i sat down (man i love brunette's).

Retro

Hi guys, this is a field report from no so sunny Nottingham. I would like to call this post birth of a Pua, but I'm going to stick with death of an afc (need to close 1st before i would even conside the pua tag).

Anyway i was in Nottingham for a stag party with a guy from work, so none of them know about pu or anything like that. So we start the day early about 2 in the afternoon and we hit different bars. Now I don't know if it's the fact that we started drinking early, the mix of larger sambucka vodka after shock and god know what else in rather large quantities, I'm still frustrated over this girl I really want, or a combination of everything, but we were all stood in revolution about 9 oclock choading about and there's sets of hot girls everywhere when this voice in the back of my head starts saying "must open", and I start smiling and I can feel the buzz running through my body. So I give my drink to one of the guys I'm with and go stright into a four set all by myself knowing no one will back me up, chat to them for a bit and then re join the guys.

Again a few minutes goes past and I give the same guy my drink again and open a three set, again chat for a bit, have a laugh with them, bust on them a little and rejoin the guys. At which point the guy I keep leaving my drink with is gob smacked at seeing me just walk up to these hot chicks and start talking, he's like "I'm staying with you all night"

So we bounce and there's a two set outside giving put flyers with there back to us, so I walk over, open, turns out they were both from Manchester so we have a three way hug. At which point two of the guys walk over who I'm out with as they are blown away and one ends up taking some photos of me and these two hot chicks (ones like 9 and the others a 7). Cool!

So we to somewhere else and I open a few other sets in there and actully start tapping girls on the shoulder as they are walking past trying to get there attention.

Was on a real roll untill the part bounces to a strip club, as there is nothing to open but strippers after money :-( I chat to a few of them and use it as practice for a routine I'm learning (the style one about telling someones personality from way rings they wear in their fingers), one of the girls loved it and was really giddy after I said what her personality was, and it was great practice for eye contact as well as there were loads if hb 9.5's there and I've never been in one of those places before.

All in all a good night, was very supprised by myself and my own natural urge to go and open! Crazy shit :-)

Retro

Just as a side note, i think what really helped was i didn't need to think of an opener, it was just "hi guys, i'm down here on a stag do with my friends, do you know of anywhere good round here?". It really did help me having that as estabilished, as i didn't need to think about what to say untill i was already in set. I definatly need to come up with a couple of good generic openers and just use them as it lets me get in more and more sets without worrying about what to say, which has always been the reason i've stumbled, it's never been the fear of approach, its the fear of not knowing what to say.