it's like. if i look at my approaching last night, it is all 'high risk'. it isn't under the raydar, it is upfront and direct.

neways, here is the jist.

sober night, as i'm pretty skint. wearing clothes that i've had for 2 years, (which none of the manchester guys realise) in a bit of an ok mood as i do love a night out with the lads.

first venue is a meet up point. just a chill out while all of the boys role in. there is always ec with women, lots. heavy ec and a smile with an older milf, don't approach. omar opens an UG (she was rotten mate), and i can see the more cute one move towards me and stand next to me. i do not open, she walks off.

i make ec with a stunner (A), a girl i'd really like to get to know. my desires are racing, i'm wanting her bad. i do not do anything

we leave for the next venue. its pants, but we have a pint.

we leave the bar to go to next venue, to which we walk past the first bar we were at. i see stunner A sat down, and just think to myself fuck it. walk in ... touch her to gain attention, scared her a little (lol ).

"do you wanna go on a date next week?"
"i have a fella"
"you have a fella? damnnn"

i leave with lingering eye contact and asmile with her.

next venue, pitcher and piano. wank place, foul, it has no life, its just 4 walls dim lights and expensive pints. kind of like the most lifeless one night stand you've ever had, seems like a great idea, but in reality it just isn't.
do not do anyhting in here except get alpha maled by the lads (i am pretty btw!).

next venue, revolution on the fucking locks. great place, great women.

stand around for 2 hours admiring nothing to report.

see a cutie who was sat near us, open her, just talking. i tell her she is pretty, she smiles. she is my type, gorgeous, can easily see myself walking down the street hand in hand with her. i ask her if i can take her on a date next week.

"no..... no"

game over with that one. actually thought from the convo it would be a yes

final resounding "no", was from some posh bird who had the best hour glass figure i had seen all night. just chased after her and asked if she was single

"no"

and that was it, there's a little more to it but i cant be arsed typing it out.

so.... sober nights out. never as fun as the boozey ones, but hey spent under 20 quid and had a few wanks out of it. smooth.

thoughts that are racing? stick out your phone and tell them to put their number in, ala snake eyes. that's about it really it's like, what could i have done different to get the desired outcome, is it actually possible to do things different to achieve a different outcome?

all my approaches were genuine, there was no 'fake game', no routines, no bs lines. just me. overall i probably spent about 3 minutes in set with women. wow, thats crazy. out of the whole 5 hours, 3 minutes were in set with girls i liked. 2 were straight off proposals, 1 had a bit more. bloody hell, puts it into perspective.

And you see no correlation here then ?.

not seeing your point sapphire, can you explain a bit more?

nice post, maybe you'd should habe gone for digits first and then date, that way the conversation goes something like:
whats your number?
erm... I have a boyfriend
*big smile & joke* that wasn't the question, so what's your number?
oh its 07*****

Saying that though if you go in confident (like you did) I find if you keep the conversation sharp and quick it puts them on the back foot and they'll agree

He's calling you a faggot.

it could work dale, thank you for your input.

it reminds me to a time when i was doing day game, and the last approach of the day (A cute girl who worked in g-star who i have spoken with before). i got talking to her, and i was completely relaxed, and what could only be described as 'immersed in the present moment'. i pursued details, think it was facebook name iirc, she said she had a boyfriend, to which i replied "that sucks", she then replied "not for him it doesn't", to which i responded "no, it definitely does not suck for him".

there was a pause, where i could tell she was blown away, she ended up giving me the name. she did not accept the friend request though

the girl who i approached last night, she had a fella. she may not have enjoyed him though, i guess i could of pursued but the natural flow the interaction went was for me to leave. maybe if i had approached 15 girls previously, had 2 kisses, things would of been COMPLETELY different

faggot is such a horrible word rude, do you have to use it here?

I know what you mean, it's state of mind, results breed results.

With my comment I purely meant if you had planned on pursuing either as you seem an ethical guy.

In another post you were very critical of "game" "PUA" etc saying how its all bullshit. Now you post a report saying how you went out and drew a blank. I was hinting at the fact that maybe you might have something to learn from it afterall.

i have been down the road of game before. for quite a while to be honest. i've also had moments that nothing in game can ever describe, or inform you how to do.

my current belief state, is that game is far from where the real magic is at.