but where do you work? and doing what?

Phil hit the nail on the head the other day by sayin if you think somebody is better than you, you have already set the frame that they need to be won over, whereas if you see somebody as your equal you just kick off normally

I think you can still treat a woman nicely as long as you lead, are strong and don't supplicate. So when I ask a girl on a date, i'll think of something we both will like, then say somethin like "I know this great Chinese we should go to this Saturday, 8pm ok?" as I'm telliing her we are going to the chinese but it sounds like a choice for her as offering her a time.

[quote=scamp;56180]It's just the Catch 22/ positive or negative re-inforcement nature of it all that pisses me off

1) You're not getting any, you get needy, you don't get any.

2) You get enough, you're not fussed, you get options

How do you get to situation 2 from situation 1?QUOTE]

I think there are numerous ways to get to situation 2, firstly like you said you can build up from ugly girls. Totally up to you, but i find some curvier girls quite pretty and a lot of fun as they can be a lot of fun!

Get on PoF or something alike so it feels like you have options! That way you know that there are several girls interested, plus you might have a date lined up so you are not so fussed on a night out.

I would personally recommend going out to just have fun with your mates! focus only on your mates and the banter and fun you're having! If you are having fun and not staring at any skirts that move then you become more attractive as you look like your not fussed.

Finally work on your self-development so that you have decent self-esteem, see people not just girls as your equals and talk to everbody like you would an alright friend. Be confident that your not a bad looking chap unless you've been involved in an accident involving fast moving machinery and your nose and because you have decent friends and you can string a sentence together I'm sure you ain't stoopid! Start believing that!

You are all welcome to contact the Jackal for advice. I know you need it and I know you want it. I have guys at master level that could help you too.
You should think about it. I'm glad you did a field report, some one is actully going out other than the Jackals

THE JACKAL, I have this rash that won't go away, is constantly itchy and keeps weeping puss, what would you recommend?

his whole family are doctors so i assume he can get u some advice

I thought they are benefit frauds, living on state's fund and go to the places where they are not welcomed(like this forum).

hahah Touche!

Damn it Jackal, you've totally hijacked my Ranty "I'M NOT GETTING ANY" thing

Over it now, apologies

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