with me returning back to the scene, i thought i would document my journey through what i am refering as the second part of my gaming life.

why am i back in the scene? i dunno. just feel that like that right now. i do not want the relationship with the ex (who also bears my child), and am looking to create new intimate relationships with women who in general take my lustful fancy.

previously in camarda part 1: in general, i pushed myself, very effortful, and didn't really achieve much. i did a lot of approaching, and didn't really get anywhere. it was ok, but i experienced some highs, but mostly lows. i would say it churned me out so to speak, and i see it happen to a few others to. don't really get what they want (maybe they do not know what they want), and slowly lose motivation, get worse off, end up being bitter towards women, etc etc.

i'm hoping this thread will end up bearing some fruit, for me, and anyone who follows, but there is a chance of me cutting this thread off, so if that happens, i apologise in advance.

i appreciate all advice, but please try and bring it from personal experience. if you feel you have something to say which you have learned, then hit it up. what i'm trying to say, but not doing effectively, is please no keyboard jockey advice. thanks.

anyway without further ado, here is my first night where i feel back.

24th december, christmas eve, bury with my brother and his pals

overall feel figity, slightly nervous around the women. unsure, unconfident in my behaviours and actions. very, very, rusty (i expect this to change as experience runs through my veins).

pub
see a few girls, one stunner at the bar. just ogle.

bar
one young looking girl takes my fancy. i give lots of eye contact. she starts giving it back. i do not approach ... wussed out. as i am exiting the bar, i tell her we are going to xyz club. she says she is not going. i tell her to and exit.

i talk to another girl who was in my vicinity and gave me ec. she AI'd me. standard stuff, she asks me my age, i tell her 26, she looks shocked, and repeats '22?' to me, i simply agree. nerves flowing through my veins. we part.

club
no cold approaches, but one girl gives ec as she walks past. i see her and motion to come back over. she goes and sits down to which i follow. i tell her to move up as she is taking all the space. she then says her back is hurting and she gets up, i get up also. she turns her back, and that's that. she was gorgeous, tight dress.
as i see her leaving the club, i tell her i want her number and she says 'i know'. she then walks off.

not much else to report to be honest. pretty lack luster.

if anyone has stories about how they changed within a few months of getting back into the game, then please share, as i'd love to hear it
thanks

um good start, needs some work. get a good wing. for instance, by myself I am shit, but if i go out with my bro Jamm then we push eachother;s state with dares and messing about pretending to be dinosaurs etc. combined we are opening sets and by the end of the night getting decent results where the girls are thrown into attraction state and dont know whats hit them. We do kino and leading and, by the end, some direct stuff. its a great laugh.

ill leave the dinasaur stuff to the pua guys max

sorry, from your descriptions it sounded like you were doing bad pickup, thats all :P

lol. yes, you are correct

t-rex or v. raptor?

Iguanadon bitches!!
By the sounds you cant be trusted to have checked the RSD website today, this video is one of the best ever.;

that was a real enjoyable vid to watch, thanks for posting.

if i can be honest, at the moment, it seems my verbal initial game is just weak. get blown out straight away if you know what i mean. just bad game on approach and immediate interaction. like i fail to get the first hook with a girl.

Dude fair play to you tonight, you had two burlesque dancer interested plus a set of hot twins fighting over who gets to talk to you..

See what game opens up for you...

thanks rude. sorry for being a cunt when you were trying to help me out. just lost the plot a little and didn't really wanna sit directly next to her. i guess it also seemed lame u know? moving to the girl, nah, she moves to me if she wants it.

anyway, i'll write a little about last night.

night started off wank, felt fat and angin. had too many buttons undone cause my shirt got ripped, but whatever. just accepted it. just said to myself, yep, i'm fat and angin and owned it.

go to first venue meet rudi and jaz. stay at bar, as that's where all the women are, you stay at the bar because its a high traffic area. will never catch me out of choice sitting off in the distance.

just to a little pre-amble to my game learning stuff. i read some stuff lately, watched some, and i knew i just had to talk to birds. and if i wanted something from them, or them to do something, just insstruct them, don't ask... instruct. so just talk to birds, get to know them, and instruct.

anyway, saw some blonde at bar, nothing much, just chit chat. i'm really relaxed? really alpha, can feel the alphaness running through my veins. not interested in the girl, but she hovers cause she wants some of it.

go to next venue, the club.

we sit near two girls, 1 a stunner. i just start talking to them. asking them questions, what they do, just chit chat. not much flirty behaviour. this goes on for around 20 mins, on and off. we then leave, i tell the hot one (who was HOT), that we'll talk later. MISTAKE NUMBER 1. GET ... THE ... FUCKING ... NUMBER ... OR SOMETHING... AS YOU WILL NOT SEE THE FUCKING GIRL AGAIN. ARHGHGHGHGHG. must close. get that fucking shit sorted. get it on FUCKING LOCK DOWN. did not see her again, but saw the angin mate. devoed.

go to bar, just get chatting to two twins. absolute stunners. dark features. just talk to them. say they look persian, and look really good. they both into me. i love looking at their faces as they are so pretty and innocent.

i leave the bar and see them sporadically through the night. i think it kinda lost its course with them, as i had to run up to one and get her facebook, but she seemed to have lost interest and i cannot find her on facebook. just wanted to spend time with them two, should of stayed with them longer. really get to knjow them more, and maybe something more solid could of developed. its about building the connection with them, tapping into the sharing and relating that all humans want. anyway.

next set. dunno, just open as i was looking for a cig. i'm zoning in on the not so good looking one, she is giggling like a champ, i'm tell her all sorts. anyway convo starts up with the good looking one. she is resistant at first, not interested, looking at her friend ignoring me, i just stay and watch her. she does something funny and we both laugh, and then its game on, she opens up to me. we spent the next 15 minutes just talking. we made a huge connection. always eye contact. she gives me compliements. tells me she wants me to take her out. we exchange details (in a bit unsmooth way). there was a moment that was perfect for the kiss, i went for it, but it did not happen. think maybe because i hesitated by 0.00001 ms at some point or something.

it was so nice to have this connection with this girl. it's like, you read pua, and you cannot possibly put into words, or how to create this connection. it is so far past pua material, pua material is incapable of explaining it. i've had a lot of these before, moments where i realise pua material is infinitely incapable of reproducing the situations that happen to me. anyway, she was so into me. asking me to take her out. it was just a connection, sharing, being intimate. she was a good girl.
(by the way i have to thank jaz for winging the other girl, if it wasn't for that i wouldn't of been able to have this conversation. i would of had two girls to deal with, and that's not ideal).

i text her this morning simply stating 'meet me at xxx at 8 tonight. cam'.

hopefully she'll come through, i'll let you guys know.

after that i just monged about, talked to a few guys, a few ugs, nothing worth mentioning.

it's good to be back. i feel so fucking back right now. if the girl doesn't meet me, i think i may go into town anyway and have a scope about.

i feel in power, i feel in demand, i feel like i can open up any girl, and really get to know them.

LESSONS FROM TODAY.

YOU NEED TO GET CONTACT DETAILS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS. YOU NEED TO SIT DOWN WITH THEM MORE, GET INTO A MAJOR CONVO. the little convos, pointless, it needs to be cemented by a long convo, with intimate eye contact. if you just stay in there long enough, and just listen, and talk, relaxed, the girl will see you as the best in the world. and you will see her as the same. its so natural its untrue.

just gutted i only have 1 number, and 1 facebook, that is fuck all man. i need to have TEN numbers, and TEN facebooks, cemented with 20 INITMATE CONNECTIONS. that is what is required. 1 number and 1 facebook, so fucking LAME. they bail on me and what, i'm fucked, no backup!

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pretty tired, but thought i'd just write this anyway.

rule 1: never chase a bird. you text, no response, don't text her. do not chase. its sad.
rule 2: chill with the girl for as long as possible. you want to be talking to a girl you like for 20-30 minutes. cement it.

i text the girl i had a huge connection with "meet me at xyz at 8. cam". i had no response. i went down there anyway, she did not turn up, it was expected. i end up chilling with kowalski.

not too bothered, but its just a shame. you have a huge connection, and then it ends up with nothing. who knows what went through her mind. my mind question my attractiveness , but who knows. she probably met up with the guy who was fucking her while i waiting for 5 mins outside the meetup point.

me and k go to a pub for a beer, the bar maid has a nice body, real nice. we talk a little. me and k end up going elsewhere, it was a bit shit so i go back on my own to the previous pub. i chill with the girl for a while, say 30 minutes while she is serving patrons. i see her smile as i walk back in. she mentions she has a bf, i don't care. ended up saying to her 'lets keep in touch'. she gives me her facebook name. i think i've found her, but not too sure.

thoughts:

game to me right now is being smooth. you don't go up to a girl and say 'i want to fuck you'. that is bad game and you will be BLOWN OUT. it was smooth me saying 'lets keep in touch' after talking to her for 30 minutes. she was eagerly agreed and she gave me the info.

be smooth in your wants. make it smooth, so she doesn't put up resistance. instruct her, in the delivery of the smooth game. never ask. EVER. 'lets keep in touch', 'come, we're going to dance' etc etc.

i've been reading a bit of rsd forums. one post i liked. it was a guy saying about his 2 hour rule. just talk to the girl for 2 hours. if you can be with the girl for two hours, then you are doing something MASSIVELY right.

don't try and push 2 hours escalation in 5 minutes. and also, he said how he just never said anything to get blown out. he was just chill. do not get blown out, and do not try and make her say 'yes' to you. do nothing on either side (both are opposite extremes).

a guy further commented, that he uses 20-30 mins instead of 2 hours, with similar results.

sounds good guys. chill with a girl, and be there for as much time as possible.

looking back on these girls, i should of moved the connection girl to a place to get food. we should of gone back to hers or mine. it was the way forward. a connection like that, you can't go back to the club and have a as good time, as the connection was right up there. and it was up to me to lead it. lead it out of the club back to mine or hers, with her friend or without her friend. it IS UP TO ME TO LEAD IT.

at the moment its easy for me to leave with a number, but meh, going nowhere these numbers. had 2 facebooks, 1 number, i reckon all 3 will go nowhere.

so you know, i'm not going to text back the connection girl, if she wants it, she knows where to get it.

and finally, this whole changing detials, man its been tough! in all 3 of these instances its been unsmooth, 'how do you spell your name', 'let me check the number', from now on its, 'lets exchange details' her: 'ok', 'give me your phone', i then place my number in her phone and ring my phone. BINGO. nice and smooth.

love it.

over and out.