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Default 10-09-2009, 09:11 AM

Like people say learn from what went wrong in these situations
It definitely does help

And if you don't get any it's not a failure, it's just a rehearsal
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Default 30-09-2009, 12:00 PM

Hi Guys,

More self indulgent diary writing again. Read and weep . I hadn't been keeping this up much because of internet connection problems and other things, but it seems that my game has gone onto a slightly higher level. For instance, girls seem to be more receptive to my Kino, I'm approaching even more. More sets are hooking and I seem get into state more often.

At the moment, one of my main aims when I go out is to have a fun night. Fun as in what I find fun (self amusing). This means dancing like a complete idiot, talking to random strange dudes and generally being sociable on my terms. (yeh, me me me me me!)

I'm still sometimes stuck in conversation land. Can speak to girls for 30min-1hour with no action, but, alot of Kino. I'm at the stage now, where I'm aiming for the extraction. Although, I need to be more insistent.

I'm starting to approach mixed sets! The way I'm doing this is being social to the guys, asking where they're from etc. Last Thursday, opened this mixed set, with 1 guy and 6 girls. Don't laugh guys because I wouldn't have dreamed of opening this a few weeks ago, because of the guy! Ended up talking to Kirsten Dunst look alike (very uncanny, plus I love Kirsten Dunst!) who was American! Had a boyfriend, but got on really well. Lots of hugs, Kino, tried to K-close 3 times, but boyfriend (confirmed by her friends too ).

I then proceeded to open a set of 5 guys and 1 girl on the dance floor! Hi 5ed the guys first, chatted to them, asked how they knew each other. Turned out they were all work colleagues, I then grabbed the girl from the set, isolated her, and started to grind. Went well for a few minutes, but I couldn't believe what I had done, went into my head and blew the set ...But I know now it's possible to open mixed sets.

Went to the Ritz on Saturday and I took drugs again (bubbles)...I became an approach machine, kiss closed twice, number closed, but no pull home! I started to offend alot of guys in their for my mad approaching. But the number one rule is "don't give a fuck what anyone thinks!" I will not do that stuff for three weeks. I'm may have come across very weird then. If i did, I apologise!

Went to Opus Monday. Again, concentrated on having fun. Not many hooks to be honest, some blow outs, but I kept approaching. Saw this complete stunner by the ladies toilets. Opened "who are you", she said a word, so I grabbed her and made out with her. I broke up with her first, wanted to lead her somewhere to chat, but no, she went back to her friends.

So in summary. I'm doing things that were completely out of my reality a few months ago. My final piece of the puzzle is taking the dominant, leading frame. Leading with a smile. It will take a little more calibration and practice from me, but I'll get there. I'm quite lucky because I've got load of resources I can draw from, and people to speak to.


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Default 03-10-2009, 03:03 AM

No Drugs this time, just Vodka!
went to Satans Armpit with Darood and Carmel Skin, who happened to have the porn star moustache of glory....
Basically, became am approach machine, made out with 2 or three women and some guy was trying to cock block me! Every other set I went in, this guy dragged the girl away, what the fuck? Am I starting to offend other guys? One guy recognised me from opus and said I was the guy coming on to all the girls! Are guys becoming jealous of me because of all the girls I'm making out with? I do try my best and make friends with the guys, especially mixed sets. However guys are starting to tool me alot more now (jealousy?)... but obviously with going out, it takes practice to handle these guys. If you people have any hints/tips in handling cock block guys, I'm all ears. Damn, I still need to pull a girl home back to my place!


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Default 07-10-2009, 11:39 PM

I'm tired and only writing this because I like you.

I think you're becoming the sleezy make-out guy. Why kiss girls of there is nothing more?!

Yes, good for your validation but your risk of disease is through the roof.

You need to get your game more potent. Genuine friendship with the guys, slow it down.

Are you experimenting with real social proof?....

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Default 07-10-2009, 11:51 PM

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Why kiss girls of there is nothing more?!
Why not? I for one think its plenty fun. Nothing wrong with kissing a beautiful woman if the mood takes you.
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Default 08-10-2009, 07:59 AM

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Why not? I for one think its plenty fun. Nothing wrong with kissing a beautiful woman if the mood takes you.
The way I see it:

-increased disease risk
-getting a 'sleeze' reputation

I don't get that much pleasure from 'just kissing' either. I'd rather be more potent, and kiss less girls. Last night, out with friends, I only 'opened' one set (mixed 2m2f set) - really solid close (she asked for my number etc).

I'm also a bit anoyed that sapmi doesn't have too much success. Clearly from his message it sounds like something is going a bit wrong.
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Default 08-10-2009, 09:10 AM

Is it that because you are so confident and don't give a shit that you don't realise you are being loud, pushy and too in peoples faces? I haven't been out with you in a while so I don't know.

Have you tried being more chilled and less goal orientated? Go out for fun and don't try and constantly kiss or talk to women. If one comes along fine talk to her but don't go out with the sole intention of kissing as many as you can. Lessen the woo and the alphaness you might benefit from hanging back a bit as you might be too intense for some people to handle so they feel threatened.

Your not short of practice or time spent out, so more time out might not be the answer. Chill out a bit give pick up a rest, it might be that you can't see the forest for the trees, some time off might make you realise where you are going wrong. By all means go out but just don't go out as much and without pick up on your mind.


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Default 08-10-2009, 12:18 PM

I don't think giving it a rest is the answer. The more practice I get, the better I will get. Makeouts and opening mixed sets were out of my reality just a few months ago.

Sitting on my Laurels and reading forums isn't gonna help improve my game. Field is king. And you think I'm not having fun when I'm out speak to girls? I'm having the time of my life! Let the good times continue. I just need to conquer the last steps, isolation and extraction.


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Default 08-10-2009, 01:18 PM

I'm not saying sit in a dark room looking at internet forums all day i'm saying go out and do other things beside pick up otherwise you will become a one dimensional pick up drone. From what it sounds like you were saying, isolation and extraction isn't going to stop you pissing off guys.


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Default 08-10-2009, 01:33 PM

From having spoken to Sapmi on various occasions. I know for a fact he is loving what he is doing at the moment.

I have seen him out and dont feel he is doing anything wrong. Everyone goes through the stage of just being a monster in the club - part of the progress. I have every faith that he will soon pull it back a little bit and his game will become more concentrated.
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