Oh yeh and to respond to sensitivethug I know he's not saying don't think all the time but I think he puts too much emphasis on it. Maybe it's because he's trying to drive his point home but I think it's being aware of your thought processes and learning which to ignore and which to keep.

getting too much now.

Do what you like

over and out

I would recommend A New Earth. My main man Will leant me a copy and I've been reading it on and off for a while. I'd say it has helped me to examine my thought process and stop worrying about things I have no control over. Some of it didn't make much sense to me and some of it I didn't agree with but like anything in the mind, body and spirit niche you have to do the things that are right for you.

Most people are doing what Tolle is talking about, "Your beliefs and oppinnions are apart of the I, I am, I believe" instead of being the awarness before the thoughts, this is major if you look at all the previouse conflicts of man, to go against ones oppinnions is not to go against a thought which is irrelivant and not his true self but infact you are threatening the life of that persons oppinnion and belief which is his identity, controlled by the ego,

It works for me but regardless i dont look at the words in the book i feel them, Like Eckhart said "The words are simply guidnece signs to the acheiving destination which is inner peace"
a word brings in a mental image when spoken, so try to feel his message behind the words instead of logically trying to understand.

Becouse all oppinnions are just oppinnions only thoughts and no one cares about them apart from the ego which is the responsibillity for mass killing dictators, wars and petty conflicts online about "I Think this, I Know this, Im right"
Take away all of the bullshit all your background, appearence, then we are all the same conciousness, just like a body creates the same enery for all other different emotions.


Love Will.

Why add the unnecessary level of identification with ones beliefs to explain vehement disagreement? People get defensive of their beliefs because they believe them to be true. That is sufficient explanation.

Is this a braille book? If not, that is absolute fucking nonsense. You read them which is a brain process. CAT scan yourself while reading 'normally', then again while 'feeling' the words. The same brain activity during 'normal' reading will be present when you are 'feeling' the words too.

If the ladder stops short, you can never reach the top, and if the ladder is an immaterial chimera you wont even get off the ground. Read the last two sections of The Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus and all of Philosophical Investigations (both Wittgenstein) because this is a nonsense.

Words are not translated into images or feelings in order to be understood. They are understood as they are. Some people get mental pictures of words others don't, a few people experience smells and tastes relating to words, most don't. This is not a system of translation. If you believe there is a problem with understanding natural language predicates to the extent that they require translation, when you examine it translation gets you no closer to understanding. Read Plato's Theaetatus, Locke's An Essay Concerning Human Understanding, then re-read Philosophical Investigations and some works by the modern pragmatists Dewey, Pierce, James, Davidson and research classic papers in philosophy of mind and language. Then we can discuss this.

This is just words, it means nothing. You'll need to explicate the meaning and argue for your assumptions.

I'm still not finished reading Tolle and have already learned a lot from him, there's good stuff in there. However, it seems to me that people with little understanding of mind and language are being lead into unfounded and inconsistent beliefs by Tolle, who also doesn't understand mind and language. If you pit the ontology of Being and Nothingness against that of A New Earth there is no contest. Sartre destroys Tolle like a freight train destroys a fly (and that's not to say there's no truth in the fly).


Peace,

kowalski

... and I just read this from Tyler, a fellow philosopher, who has this to say about Tolle:

Which is the same thing Tom and I and Locke are saying:


Peace,

kowalski

it is only few that path trough the narrow gate

some people know the truth
some people seek the truth
and some people think if your not lying your telling the truth

instead of fighting the bad
praise the good

abraham-hicks

I'll take the good and disgard and criticise the bad, ignorance for me is not an option.

I don't understand why everyone has a such a boner for tolle, It's seems like people think you have to accept everything he says like some kind of religious scripture. If you criticise him with valid points you don't get any responses just whimsical mutterings.

I'd be interested to know how the advocates of Tolle's ontology interpret the following links:

'Consciousness signature' discovered spanning the brain - health - 17 March 2009 - New Scientist
God helmet
Can Meditation Be Bad for You? by Mary Garden


Peace,

kowalski