Originally Posted by kowalski

The term natural is a bit confusing. To be naturally awesome, (where natural is defined as produced by nature) say at football for example. You would have to be able to, having never even seen a football before, be skilled enough to play for Manchester United in the Champions League Final.

So in that sense no-one is a natural, at anything. Everyone who is good at something has learned it, either consciously or unconsciously through nurture not nature. Is there any difference between learning something consciously or unconsciously? If your skill level is the same, mostly no. Except the guy who learned something unconsciously may not always be able to replicate it as he may not know how he does what he does.

People get confused because in The Game Strauss uses the term to refer to someone who has learned to be good unconsciously. This doesn't fit the above definition of the term natural. But, natural has another meaning.

Nowadays most people in the community use the term natural to refer to someone who behaves authentically and improvises, rather than someone who has learned to be good unconsciously.

Natural (adj.) Genuine or spontaneous.

Naturals in this sense are those whose behaviours are genuine or spontaneous.

So, if you are being genuine and spontaneous then, by definition, you are a natural. Irrespective of how you learned to be good.

Originally Posted by markuk

K's right it doesn't matter how they got there it’s the fact they arrived.

Mark

Originally Posted by Snake Eyes

It matters to me how they got there! That's why I started the post. I want to arrive lol.

You're London based right? Come join us next weekend....