It seems more like your loss. You only chatted twice what do you expect? Maybe you should focus on building attraction before asking her out.

It seems more like you should read people's posts more carefully

Legend didn't say he only chatted to her twice, he said he asked her out twice. Ledge has been around a while, is pretty successful and knows how this shit works.


I guess a lot of what people are saying here is many of us tend to be good people, treat others with respect and respect ourselves enough not to waste our social time with people that we don't connect with. Some things only make sense when you are ready to understand them though, I know a lot of what I know now was outside of my reality when I all I'd read was MM.


TF, I love that suggestion camping out is awesome fun. When I was finishing my MPhil me and my girl at the time lived in a tent for about 2 months (out of choice). We did it for a laugh one night, loved it and every day we decided to stay another day (BBQ every night mutha fuckas). It was possibly the happiest time of my life so far. Ahhh the simple life, I'm just a big hippie don't you know.


Hustler, equating sex and shit you scatological fecker. As long as you are straight with people it's not like shitting on your doorstep at all. Devante and I pretty much went through all the single fitties in the building. I don't see him much any more because we both got promoted. The way you handle relationships I wouldn't forsee a problem. Furthermore, if anyone even looked like they were about to stir shit they'd very quickly find themselves being reminded that they are at work and warned that I will not hesitate in making an official complaint if they do. Never had to do this.


Peace,

kowalski

You're surprised by this? Since when was 'ignore her' a recommended tool in the pick-up world?

What was she supposed to do after this - drop at your feet? Grow some bollocks and start acting like a man. She's obviously got no shortage of guys who want to fuck her. Do you think either of those guys ignored her? Did they bollocks, they flirted to fuck and back with her, and they got what they wanted.

Like ignoring her?

I 100% agree with Legend.

Im just trying to help and Im not trying to put you off. I just think you have SPENT too much time wanting to fuck this ONE girl when they are so many other girls/opportunities knocking on your door. I emphasise the word SPENT rather than WASTED cos every interaction with the opposite sex successful or otherwise is part of the learning curve.

As for building attraction, if you have been in this forum longer, you would have read about my previous posts. Im good at building attraction over a period of time rather than the same night lays, number close, kiss close, etc..! And most of the girls I have been with are work colleagues, my gym members, etc.

Kowalski is spot on...! I chatted to this girl from work over few weeks and asked her out twice getting the same excuse of "Im busy" and not even suggesting a different time. So YES, HER LOSS cos Im AWESOME....!

Let us know how you get on. Be interested to know. Good luck!

I haven't read your posts so I only responded to what you said from a perspective of somebody who doesn't know you. Sorry if I sounded like I was putting you down.

@Covert. I was ignoring her to see if she if she would chase conversation, no need to be so uptight. I was testing the waters and I got the reaction that I expected. Now I know she needs attention.

I'm starting to doubt she's even worth this time spent but the challenge is just too mouth watering. I'm thinking I should just sit back a bit and wait a couple of weeks until she gets over her marriage/new found dates before I make a real move. Plus she's got a date every night for god knows how long so I don't want to be in the middle of that.

Disinterest on its own doesn't do much. Active disinterest (though I wouldn't advocate it as a tactic) works because it necessarily exists within a framework of interest, making it slightly paradoxical. The basic structure is give them just enough attention so they go to give you attention, then you ignore them, then they clamber for attention, then you 'playfully' take the piss out of them for it.

Again, not advocating this shitty tactic, just describing it in a way it will work to achieve the desired effect.

Really you'd be better off asking yourself why you would want to use such a tactic, if you do.

Not sure what you've been exposed to in the past but maybe try Juggler's books, The Blueprint and Flawless Natural and read some of the quality content on here for a different perspective. One that is not manipulative and deals with the real issue (and the only thing you can actually change) the self. Self improvement is about improving yourself not manipulating the world so your undeserving self gets what it thinks it wants.


Peace,

kowalski

I wonder if any girl is worth so much time. Like Legend says there are no shortage of options in this world. It's about starting to recognise the potential of these options and what you are capable of.

Spot on.

I have made a decision to not pursue this.

Working with her all the time and actually showing her that I won't be her lapdog has shown me what kind of personality she really has underneath all the sluttyness and it's extremely generic.

Thanks for the great replies and i'll certainly check out juggler's book.

Nice one. There's better girls out there.

These are the words of a man with self-respect. Respect!


Here are links for Juggler's 3 books (they're short and easy to read):
Juggler Method- Conversational Jujitsu | Scribd
http://www.uoregon.edu/~kludwigs/S&W...p%20Artist.pdf
How to Meet and Connect With Women | Scribd


Don't break the law, piracy causes baby AIDS ... or something.


Peace,

kowalski