Wow, that's just insane. To recognise your own narrow mindedness and be happily comfortable with it is beyond comprehension. Some people don't deserve their frontal lobe.

Hear hear.

That kind of thing is frustrating and, when you really like the person, upsetting.

I remember you writing about this, mate. Goons. This is nice though ...

You funny fucker.

There's a few people I have helped in this way, too. This makes me think if you know someone who can boil it all down for you and just give you very specific, individually tailored advice, you'll be more successfull in less time than if you have to figure it all out from multiple opposing sources of generalised advice.


Peace,

kowalski

I literally haven't told anyone.

I started my self-improvement journey about 7 years ago. It was amazing! Reading and listening to all this mind bending material taking me outside my current beliefs and opening my mind to the endless possibilities of life.

Obviously I wanted to spread the word.

So I told my best friend; He had very similar thoughts and feelings to me, so bought him books to read... It would be great to have my bestest buddy with me on the journey with me.

He laughed in my face. Told me it was a load of old tosh. Then belittled me for even needing to look into that 'stuff'. Great friend.

I realised then that people don't want to be preached too.

The other reason that I haven't told anyone is because, for me, this is a very personal journey. My feeling is that if I told my close friends / colleagues, they wouldn't truly understand what I am trying to achieve and will label me as a cowboy hat wearing, black eye liner wearing magician trying to shag as many girls as I can.

If someone asks me straight 'Are you a PUA?' I would say 'No way!” I don't identify myself as a PUA. I'm still me, but I've become part of this community to improve my social skills and to understand and counter my approach anxiety.

On the flip side to all this... I would only tell someone about the community and various game skills if I believe they are asking the right questions. If someone wants to know how to improve their social skills then I will go right out and tell them because they are ready to be directed (skills or the community). No point wasting your breath on deaf ears!

Hey guys, ain't posted for a while been busy doing alot of field work and getting over an unexpected low patch. Got a few discoveries I will share on another post but as I mainly been busting through AA and engineering social circumstances out of nothing, its prob a bit basic or regurgitated stuff you already know. Anyways...

I have a unique set of circumstances, I have been away from home for two years and not a soul knows I am involved in this... In fact I don't even know how mainstream the community has got in England or whether even any of my friends are involved. I take it, that its no longer underground anymore?
I have been lucky that no one out here knows me, so I've been able to make make major headway over the crippling AA I used to face, something I probably could not have done at home with all my friends knowing what I was doing...

Maybe this is why I'm going to keep it quiet, as any changes people will see in me, they will attribute it to my travels... What people don't know, don't hurt them. Its better than risking scorn or ridicule for doing so in my opinion and what gains do you get?
I don't really see the advantages of letting people know you are a player other than ego talk. I must admit I was dying to tell people when I discovered the community but I didn't and I don't feel the need to now.
I have spoke to girls about societal conditioning and pretty much everything that Gunwitch audio course teaches in the inner game disc. I think you can talk about social dynamics and anything about male - female dynamics, without saying that you have anything to do with PU.

I think the main problem is getting a reputation as a player, as that is what happened to a friend of mine who was a natural. He had some girls flake on him and cite the reason as they had heard off someone else he was a player. Before I discovered the community I used to call him a slag (obviously I was secretly jealous). I don't think this is beneficial for anyone in a social circle as people talk too much. He was not a meat market merchant either, he would only go for hot chicks but his actions earnt him this bad reputation and as the saying goes; shit sticks. If your involved in sarging the same clubs in small towns (80,000 in mine), you could risk getting this unwanted rep eventually... However in the city it wouldn't be as much of a problem to consider.

There are a few of my friends who are naturals, maybe I would mention to them a few wingman games that I learned in Australian/ Asian bars but I think by just applying the materials on my own as I have been, I will continue to make steady progress and I will just focus on living an interesting life and meeting new women in opportunities that previously wouldn't have happened.

I would be inclined to help people who I think would need my help however, I would probably start by making them just go up and start talking to women rather than introducing them to the community straight away. If they show a genuine interest in getting their life handled, you can show them the entrance to the rabbit hole as it were.
I try and argue with people who parrot negative conditionings to me and try to tell them there are better ways to think about these issues but if they are convinced of something its going to take work on their part to undo.
Spot on

I like the part about small towns with 80,000 population and I think you are on to something there they are way too small to sarge regularly without having a really solid 1 in 1 game without getting caught out I know from experience where my friend and I opened a x2 set in the bar moved on to a x4 set later on the other side of town then bumped into the x2 set again saying that's them that said blah blah to us earlier. (It just looks bad) I know some people would say use them as pivots but sometimes you don't see them coming! lol

It needs to be mixed up the good thing is the UK isn't huge and I'm sure we can all name cities that are a 1hr train ride away from us? for me it would be Manchester, Nottingham, Derby and Sheffield (hours of fun).

Great post mate liked it.

Kalita ... answer the question in the OP please.


Peace,

kowalski

There's only x3 other people I work with that know about the community and they are as into it as me, which is great because you never know who will be at work the next day sending a new link off the internet on great neg examples or success stories.

We all saw the value in what the community has to offer straight away and selfishly have kept it pretty much to ourselves. I say selfishly but Its the reason I'm here in the first place to have the edge over the next guy.

As it stands today I havent told any girls what I do or that there was a structure to how I first started talking to them and honestly I don't ever plan on doing and as for family well I don't think they would understand even if I wrote it down in crayon for them. I think Iv'e told as many people as I'm going to that's my point.