I'm really very interested to know who in your life does and doesn't know that you are involved with this community (I suppose the four main groups are family, friends, sexual partners, colleagues), for those that know - what they know and how you described it to them, and for those that don't know - why you haven't told them and whether you have plans to tell them.

Just like gays.


Peace,

kowalski

I have disclosed to 2 close friends, friends I care about and think that would benefit from taking this path. They have however rejected my advances even though they have seen first hand the results I have acheived. I would have thought they would be bright eyed and pasionate enough to wonder 'could I have this too?'

I'm afriad one of the two friends summed it up when I told him I would take him out and show him what was possible, he said 'I'm too narrow minded for that'.

As for others, I've not disclosed to family or anyone else, although think I now show a more refined level of centredness and more laid back attitude when discussing girls/girlfriends with my parents.

Oh and there's also Hustler... the guy who introduced me to the Game. Once I knew there was a chance of changing my life with regards to girls I was hooked. I mean, as a man, how can you not be passionate about that!!

One of my housemates knows roughly about it, after I once lent him my copy of The Game. But he never really took to it. He's a good looking lad, intelligent and funny, but has bags of self doubt. This led to a thoroughly annoying conversation recently where he told me he thought attractive girls were just too good for him. I could have throttled him.

My little brother knows about it (I say little - he's 24. But he'll always be my little bro!).

And that's it. Other people, I choose not to divulge my activities too, mainly because I know they would seek to belittle it. My friends especially - I can do without being out with them, and them turning around going 'You're the pick up artist - go and pick her up' when they've been stood around ignoring girls for the last few hours.

I made a mistake when i came into PUA... i told too many people... and when i say too many, i only mean about 10 lads. Most of them were very dissmissive. 3 of them wanted to give it a try, and 2 of those 3 turned out to be very selfish and actually sabotage/de-value me, once i took them under my wing.
I got ridiculed quite a bit, and like Covert said, i was constantly being given ridiculous challenges which werent part of my game, but i felt i had to do them, to maintain my honour.... was a mistake

that leaves 1 friend that i trust with it!

Also, ivce had a good former wingman, who was my wing before i actually adopted the Game and Mystery Methods, as soon as he knew i was using this material, he wasnt interested anymore... it seemed as if, he didnt want to go out, knowing i had a tactical advantage....despite me offering the info to him.

I have 2 female friends, who know about it, although they just have a giggle about it, like trading war stories. They actually find it quite fun, although i dont think they'd ever do it themselves!

Also, there is my Dad, who i am close to... i dont diclose the nitty-gritty with him. But he knows about the organisational/tactical side of things, and we talk about a few of the observations that i make in PUA.


From now on, i keep it much more in the closet, so to speak.

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basically, 4 ppl.

my brother, my closest friend. think thats about it. the ex has the ability to find out about but i told her never to find out what "pua" stands for.

I've told a few people...
I told the mrs but I didn't tell her about the forum just about the different schools of thought and what I believed in. I also asked if anyone had tried canned stuff on her, no one had but she'll know now. She jokes when I go out that i'm off with all my man slags to chat up women.
A guy I work with comes to me and tells me about his love life and what to do. He went on to get a flurry of women so i'm pretty chuffed with his progress.

There's a girl I know who told me that she found a guys copy of the game and read bits of it and she said that some bits were true but most of it was weird.
I think the thing that puts me off telling people everything is that there are different schools of thought and the most prevalent one MM is the one I don't relate to and I don't consider myself a PUA, it's just an area of my life I have worked on and not a defining factor.

Likewise. When observing friends or strangers in a variety of relationship situations I make it clear to her my take on things, particularly with regards to how men should behave.

Also my girlfriend had an awkward time recently with a male uni mate. He started to go all heavy with her and trying to hold her hand, etc., and basically turn being friends into more (something I used to do until too recently!) (something I would also equate to 'going under the radar'). I laughed it off and explained what he was doing reassuring her that he'd soon realise he's made it awkward for them both and would soon pretend nothing had happened. Soon enough he did, and to her relief he's being the friend she expected him to be all along.

My sister, my closest friends (who care to listen) and of coarse ALL "my ladies".

Oh yeah, and there's also my mate from work. We get on really well and often go out drinking. I disclosed the whole gaming thing to him and he knew me and Hustler were trying to improve our chances with the ladies. He was eager to see and join in (he gets laid pretty regularly and is not afraid of girls generally). Anyway, he turned up and joined me, Hustler and another PUA fella and I showed him some notes I had (some openers and something to do with role reversal). He was like 'what the hell is this all about? You don't need this sh*t!'. Me and Hustler were pretty taken aback and had a heated debate, pretty much lowering our state that night (obviously flinging us into self-doubt).

Now, a year on, he's heard a few chapters of the Blueprint on my ipod (by accident when he borrowed it) and really finds it exciting stuff, so much so we've discussed it many times. It seems we were on the same page all along, and he was right to slate my tactical routine back then, which at the end of the day... wasn't me. This friend has helped clarify a few things about picking up ladies through his natural, unashamed and positive value giving vibe.

I don't disclose my involvment in the community as much as I used to purely because I don't see it as a big deal anymore, if anyone asks me 'How did you do that?' or comes to me with girl issues then I will point them in the right direction. When I was a wide-eyed newbie who suddenly discovered 'The Game' (which back then I thought was the holy grail) in my excitement I told quite alot of people. Reactions ranged from bemusement, to ridicule to intrigue.

I bought copies of the game for my brother and a close a friend. I also once sent a copy of DeAngelos Double your dating to a friend who'd recently broke up with his ex, he knew about my involvment in the community and he wanted to get back in the saddle. I thought DYD would be a good middle-ground for him to start from. He emailed back saying 'I find this vilifies women'.

This same guy recently spent over a grand to flyout to Grenada to go out on a date with a girl he met on the internet.

Unfortunately in the past i've found with non-community friends it's very much a case of 'you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink'. Others can be quite defensive or hostile about it, I think this reaction usually comes from self denial or potential threats to their ego so I tend now to avoid this conflict by not bringing up the subject unless people specifically ask about it.