Originally Posted by tony77

When you're first starting out its important to get open as much as possible to build up the muscle memory of actually approaching as well as getting positive feedback. The reality is that some girls can be really bitchy and are really skilled at shutting you down. Was out saturday night opened a 3 set on he balcony of this club in teh smoking area. I opened with an opener I had just made up. They were all smoking and deep in conversation but for fuck sake don;t ever let that stop you guys from approaching women. Anyway the leader/mother hen tells me she likes my hair and then asks me to leave because they were having a private conversation.

Me: "hey guys, quick question, how easy is it to give up smoking?"
Motherhen: "I like your hair"
Me: "Oh thanks, just had it cut"
Mother hen: "You should go to the same place all the time"
Me: "Maybe I will"
Motherhen: "ok so where did you come from?"
Me: "well there was this lamp and someone rubbed it, and out i came" hehe
Her: "thats not what I mean"
Me: Ok i was over there"
Her: "Well I suggest you go back there then because we were trying to have a private conversation"
Me: "well now we all having a conversation"
I tried to plow on but this girl was obvious used to this and simply carried on talking to her friends. I was so pissed off I felt like doing something! Even if i had to act like a dick and just stand there in silence creeping them out or ruining their night because I thought it was out of order! I am sure there are loads of solutions but plowing would not have worked and it would only have killed my state. But next time i shoudl either work on calibrating or not taking shit but this goes to show that plowing does not always work.

Not being one to give up I opened a 4 set downstairs by the bar because I coudl have sworn they were all checking me out. Infact I mentioned this but they denied it hehe! I did my best to get something going but I was realy struggling.

The only way to improve, to grow is to go through the pain barrier and try staying longer in set. Its like with muscle building, growth comes from squeezing out that last rep you can hardly lift and pushing, pushing until you feel the burn in your muscles and you're going red!

Other times though it can be better to simply leave them better than you found them. ON the same night I did some solo, opened a 2 set briefly at the bar and they brought me a drink. 5 minute interaction, some banter and bumped into them later at another bar where I introduced them to my wings.

Good post Loke!

Originally Posted by Tw1sted

It's because you let her take the frame and dominate man. She ignored your question, asked her own and you followed along.
This is a subtle shit test that you failed.

When she asked about your hair you should've said "hair? I was talking about smoking, not hair." This shows that you're not weak and she probably would not have immediately blown you out.

Originally Posted by tony77

Thanks Twisted! haha I was just going to stand there and ruin their eveing and be a dick just for the hell of it but I think you hit the nail on the bollock hehe! BUt doesn;t matter, they didn;t stop me from opening more sets later on!