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Default how far have u come since you were 'a newbie'? - 10-03-2011, 03:27 AM

Yo guys,

I'm sat in bed after a night of sarging, as a uni student I went to the student clubs. I have recently (as of last week) started sarging completely sober, and has put alot into prospective for me.

It's not easy to vibe in the high energy clubs completely sober, I dont struggle at all after 5 or 6 beers time, but just find myself to be a bit of an 'observer' when im in the clubs sober because I can't be assed to dance around like a maniac all night. As far as personality goes im an energetic lively bloke, I even have ADHD (a hyperactivity disorder) but even so it gets a bit tidius.

I'm in a bit of a bad mood because I came back home empty handed tonight. I had girls flirting with me trying to get with me, but they werent girls I wanted to get with, for me the challenge is not getting girls it's getting girls that suit ME. Generally when I go out on a wednesday I always atleest pull a few girls, but being sober chucked a spanner in the works for me! I didnt even really have AA, I just couldnt get anything going with the girls I did approach. Anyone else experience this before? My main question to you guys is - how far have you guys come? as in what progress have you made since you began your journey?

I know I'm just being in a silly mood and will probably be fine in the morning but does anyone have/know any real good examples of tranformations? I've come along way since I began pick-up but so far but I've learned much more about myself than about women which arguably is only logical as a 19 year old. But I just need some reassurance that I'm not setting unrealistic goals for myself.

Peace.


Think of it like this next time you get blown out, you just havent opened the girl thats going to go home with you that night yet.
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Default 10-03-2011, 05:19 AM

This strikes a chord with me. It's a state issue, when you see lots of drunk people in massive drunken state and your not it brings yours down and you make excuses for it, reassuring yourself that your better anyway and don't need to be a drunken idiot, the girls are ugly and whatever else doesn't happen when your drunk. I drink when I go out for student nights, not because I feel I have to, I just like getting drunk with my mates, it's fun and it makes it easier to practice lots of shit out. That said money is tight so I'm gonna transition over to sober soon.

In student clubs, being alpha and confident is enough to kiss random girls, lots of girls go out to get drunk and randomly kiss guys or sleep with them it's a bit of a head fuck though because it makes you feel like your game is better than it actually is as you don't need to make any effort, but random gimme's are meaningless other than for confidence as when you really fancy a girl who is hot enough to kiss any guy, it doesn't usually work like that.

If your gonna go sober you gotta make a bigger effort to get into state, Natural Tim from RSD has some good tips for this, but best advice is make it fun for yourself, go out for pure self amusement. The other problem you have is something I'm starting to break through at the moment, opening is not an issue any more but transitioning and making interactions fun and sexual is what I'm purposely trying to smash through, with some success. It's just a case of experimentation and finding what works for you. Takes time though as you can only try so much stuff out if you want to enjoy your night. That said the time will pass anyway, so you might as well use it to keep progressing.

If your a student I would recommend making the most of the day game opportunities available as your a lot more likely to meet the unattached hot girls outside of the clubs and leave an impression. Some examples - Guest lectures, societies, sports, volunteering, RAG, language lessons, too many things to get out there and do. This will also improve your club game loads.

An example that happened to me about a year ago I volunteered for a day painting a kids park (through uni), purely to meet girls, was no hot girls doing it but was a good day anyway. A month later I bumped into a large girl that was there, in a club and she introduced to me her group of friends as the guy she knows from volunteering, every girl in the groups eyes instantly lit up.
Unfortunately I was a bit of chode at the time and didn't act on it. But either way status and knowing lots of people helps your game massively at Uni.

A few other things worth considering, I find the best clubs for gaming are the ones that allow you to take your drinks to the smoking area as they become good social hubs and people are happy to spend more time there and chat. Also if I'm with friends and find I'm being an observer or becoming bored I usually go for a walk alone, bar/toilet/smoke, I do this a lot a get a lot of random kisses just from eye contact, saying Hi and introducing myself to others who have split from groups for various reasons. This brings your state up massively and takes away the pressure of blowing out sets near your friends. Although I'm a nightmare to go out with because I always end up losing everyone.

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Default 10-03-2011, 05:11 PM

I'm getting into sober club game and it takes work. It takes exposing urself to a few difficult nights where u think 'Atleast I'm here getting used to it, I will hack it all night and that in itself will be my achievement'. You have to get used to the close physical pushandshove contact in a club from everyone bcause they all drunk. You have to get used to the noise and learn to relax there and not walk around like a really tense fish out of water. Go to the bar and get free soda waters, hang out with friends and get in state by yelling and taking it in turns to use 'the claw'. U get into it after a while.


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Default 10-03-2011, 05:39 PM

The other day I had an insight into exactly how far I have come since I started in Jan.

Long story short, a non-PUA friend witnessed me in action and was gobsmacked at how much I have changed (for the better!)

Here's the lil FR I did on it: A view of how far I have come so far...

Much love,

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