Race and DHV - Page 3 - Pick-up Artist Forum

Avon · 13-03-2011, 07:31 PM

Thanks so much for bringing this topic up and for having a civil discussion about it.

I would like to know more about girls who do not date Indian/Asians.

(I am one myself and have NEVER had sex with an Indian or black woman, but that is my personal preference.)

Can someone please fill me in on this, so there are girls out there who would just not sleep with an asian/indian? What are their reasons?

If this is the case then how can one spot these girls so that I do waste any time on them.

I must also admit that I also have difficulty with English women. I live in London and the majority of my successes have been with foreign girls. I do nto know what I am doing wrong but I jus tfind that english girls are just so much hard work and have a real up their own backsides, atttitude about them.

I am not say that I have never had an english girl, I have but they are relativly few in comparison with my foreigh successes.

I have reasonable skill level in game but not great. I would say that on a scale of 1-10 I am about 3.5-6.5. Sometimes I know exactly what I am doing but at other times I just bomb out, but that is another story.

Maxemillion · 13-03-2011, 09:51 PM

Al Pacino would still be th fucking man if he were an asian carpet fitter from dagenham, thats the whole f-ing point. Its about who he is and how he behaves that makes him a strong leading male.

Joker · 13-03-2011, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Refl3x

Chinese girls -- ive never ever managed (and ive tried a lot) to bone chinese girls -- as a culture they tend to be heavily racist and promote same race LTRs and sex

I've bedded one HK chinese girl and dated a Jap I couldn't seal the deal with. The Chinese girl was a bit of a 'family rebel' and apart from me dated black or mixed race dudes only and never anyone chinese. She was also all about hip hop and r n b and had that whole vib about her, so she certainly bucked the whole text book reading geek stereotype and kinda talked and acted black and hung out with mostly black girl mates too. And I have an entirely unrelated HK chinese (British born) lad mate who only seems to ever date posh white english birds for some reason.

Eastern Europeans - love white guys for sex and LTRs -- i suck Rusksi/poles etc in for fun
Russians tend to be quite anti anything other than white-- but poles etc dont mind what race you are

I was seeing a Russian girl for a while. And stayed friends/f-buddys with her a while after. She was really really hot and did a bunch of modeling work (believe me or don't-whatever

). While i was picking her up she kept going on about her ex having been some bloke from UAE, and I could tell she was 'fishing' to see where I was from while signaling the IOI that she was broadly speaking 'into' my look/type. After we'd been together a while I mentioned this whole perception I had about most russians (in the UK) being massively racist...and she agreed. She was 'old money' and her family in Russia were well off and she used to say that alot the Russians in the UK were poor people more likely to be ignorant/racist of other cultures etc due to their more disadvantaged backgrounds lack of education etc?? No idea if this was her snobbery or some kinda social trend/observation/measurable fact, perhaps somewhere between? She also hated the way russian lap dancers and sex workers had effected perception of Russian women in the eyes of british people in her opinion- (and militantly wouldn't do glamour modeling despite several offers). And she even once picked a fight with a russian girl who was handing out strip club fliers in liverpool street... And yes I froze while they argued aggressively in russian because I didn't know what the hell I was supposed to do or what they were sayin. She kinda had this thing about how she thought lots of the russians in the UK gave Russians in genreral a bad rep? And the whole racism thing was part that was her opinion anyway.

There are just some factors in life that WILL nuke your chances with a girl if thats how she is conditioned and there is a scale-- for instance if you are a god of a pua then you can plough through a lot of it but its an uphill struggle.

You can say its a limiting beleif all you like but ive seen it as a limiting FACT

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Refl3x · 13-03-2011, 10:29 PM

Chinese girls are always afraid of me -- i dont think im their type, its an uphill struggle from a race point of view but also im a skin headed thug -- which i really dont think they go for.

When i was over in Ukraine in Kiev in the capital city for 7 days...i saw all of 1 black person!!!
I asked the girl i was seeing why there arent any, she was heavily anti blacks/asians/arabs etc and gave me the impression that was the accepted view.

I also asked her why everyone was looking at me, she said everyone thinks im in the Russian Mafia because ive got muscles, tattoos and a skinhead

I`ll say this Phenominally Beutiful Women, totally makes the uk look like a genetic shit heap from the female point.

She came to stay with me in the Uk for a few weeks- she hated Bradford with all the asians, kept asking me why everyone was looking at her eve the women -- i was like omg its because you are fucking beutiful without even any makeup on.

Avon · 13-03-2011, 10:33 PM

So are the Russians racist? That explains A LOT.

I have had a lot of difficulty with women Russians, especially the ones from Moscow. They have this real attitude about themselves. I find it almost impossible to get beyond even a 1st date with them, if that. I have reached the stage now that if I find they are Russian, I just move on.

Joker · 13-03-2011, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Avon

So are the Russians racist? That explains A LOT.

I have had a lot of difficulty with women Russians, especially the ones from Moscow. They have this real attitude about themselves. I find it almost impossible to get beyond even a 1st date with them, if that. I have reached the stage now that if I find they are Russian, I just move on.

To be fair I think if you're getting blown out after/during a first date, it's not gonna have anything to do with your race/appearance by that point.

Avon · 14-03-2011, 06:33 AM

Hey joker,

Thanks for your comment.

I am clearly not doing something right with the Russians. I very rarely even get to a 1st date.

MY game with them must really suck because I can always sense this attitude from them that I do not get from many other nationalities. It is almost as though they have their bitch shield up and all this is purely during day game.

The one time I was was doing night game and Russians were involved, I was acting as a wing man and was really being shat upon... They were not even particularly good looking. I would say that they were 5/6 at best.

I get this feeling from a lot of Russians that they think they are 10/11 and who the fuck am I to even be approaching them.

BTW, I no longer suffer from AA, I have not for many many years now so that is not the issue here.

I think that AFAIK I will not and do not need to waste time with Russians.

I did not know about the Ukrainians attitude either, although I did have a Uraininian several years ago.

Joe_Fresh · 14-03-2011, 08:35 AM

this thread is disturburbing.

people talking about "Facts", what a joke. not cool and totally not in keeping with the spirit of self betterment and overcoming social conditioning. were all racist in some way, but that doesn't make it acceptable, its a weakness. so if some girls are overtly racist then there just stupid dicks...simple as

Joker · 14-03-2011, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe_Fresh

this thread is disturburbing.

people talking about "Facts", what a joke. not cool and totally not in keeping with the spirit of self betterment and overcoming social conditioning. were all racist in some way, but that doesn't make it acceptable, its a weakness. so if some girls are overtly racist then there just stupid dicks...simple as

What about when it's not overt? What about when it's subtle? Just that general sense of what Refl3x calls an 'uphill struggle' in certain instances?

IMO there is nothing wrong/disturbing about a bunch of mates discussing this kinda stuff and plenty wrong with pretending it doesn't exist/make a difference.

That's my 2cents.

Jaz · 14-03-2011, 10:52 AM

I'll end this now.

A contentious debate I don't really want us to continue. I'm afraid that new guys may mistake the place for stormfront.org