I'm very new to all of this but from all that I have read so far, routines all seem to be geared towards sarging women we meet for the first time. I was wondering whether anyone has any suggestions for seducing girls who a guy might know or be loosely friends with before going on a nightout with them or meeting them in a club?

Mr Fox

why not she won't have clue you're sarging her, you are just someone she knows who seduced her.

Yeah but things would get wierd if you're in the friend zone...

Lots of Kino and be fun. It's no different really, just easier if anything.

Yeah actually I think you're right..

I used to be friends with a girl, we would chat over msn a lot...

Then one day, I arranged to go over to her house, so we watched a film.. I started kino by softly tickling her arm, then held her hand, then kept upping the kino more and more, and eventually she kissed me. This was going from being "besties" right down to the kiss.

Obviously her logical mind tried to tell her its wrong and not to do it, but I ended up sleeping over (didnt have sex with her though..)

FAILED!

I know it was a fail, that wasn't my point lol. But theres other factors for why we didn't fuck

no you failed bitch boy.

Don't let the senior members dominate you just because they got a ranking on the pua forum. That means jack shit, if there being cunts tell them.

You are such a TWAT! Who talks about dominating? It was tongue and cheek reply when I said DanielJamie failed. It meant to be funny and at least he thought it was funny too. Do me a favour - Search my many posts and see how many hundreds of advice I have given and taken? After you have done that, post another thread of apology!