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Default 31-03-2011, 04:09 PM

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Sounds to me like you seriously lack a skill called 'Banter'
Dont be so formal about everything...
A letter!

Im thinking you should maybe start going to an improvisation night like we have up here in mancs, to loosen up, stop taking yourself so seriously
just my observation-- i dont know you from adam
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your drawings are awesome. If you can unleash that creativeness in the way you communicate you'll be on top.


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Default 31-03-2011, 04:49 PM

fuck numbers even, instant date. close the drawing pad and move them to another location with 'better light', show them some pics then close the pad again and move onto another topic. keep it rolling from there. dont just be all 'cheers, email, bye I'm busy drawing'.


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Default 01-04-2011, 04:31 PM

Dude

Leave the sketch pad at home and do some real approaches, find some wings better than you who can help and push you or do a one on one or bootcamp. If you can get great reactions from girls while using your drawings you can do so without them!

I think the reason why you're not getting the results you want is because they just see you as the Artist guy. Like those caricuture Artists in Leicester Sq (Pester Sq hehe) people are intrigued but intrigue does not equal attraction. You see you have captured the interest and that is all.

You need to mix it up, add some teasing, banter, flirt, talk about other stuff! It could be that these girls have worked out that you're using this gimmick to get their number. To them it may feel manipulative hence why you may not have had any more replies.

This is actually hiding your intentions which is not always good. If anything you may be put in the friend zone and thats ok if you want more female friends. Hell you could always hook up with their friends but I'm guessing you want to improve your success with women right?

Being a bit of an Artist myself I can use the qualities in order to meet and attract women. For example drawing helps improve the eye so makes me more observant hence I can make situational comments about women, what their wearing, doing etc! Also when I talk I inject some passion, creating emotions!

Why not just tell this girl you like her? Find something unique about her you like, comment on that "You know I love the fact you have an Artists soul, thats so sexy, may girls can't draw to save their life. I'm free next Thursday, lets meet up for a drink but don't try getting me drunk because my drawings wont come out well lol!"

You say drawing is a crutch! Dude you're not a cripple, you're still learning and in order to progress I am sorry to say you do have to push yourself out of your comfort zone a little! You think you need it but you don't, its all in your head! If you believe in yourself and believe that you are attractive then you can walk up to women and start talking to them. Yes it maybe hard, you may get blown out, ignored but hell, you might get some solid numbers and even sex!

You dont have to stop using this method completely, you can go out then gradually phase it out and do some real cold approaches, opinion openers, direct, situational, whatever until you don't need your sketch pad!

Think of it like this, if you only ever eat one type of food for a long period of time, anything else may not taste as good. So when that one food you like runs out you're in trouble because you either have to learn to eat other stuff or die.

This is why I don't like to limit myself to any one method, venue or time of day. I do both day and night game. I will approach anywhere where women are, street, shops, supermarket, cinema, library, bars, clubs, trains, buses anywhere! Direct, indirect, situational!
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Default 02-04-2011, 12:46 PM

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fuck numbers even, instant date. close the drawing pad and move them to another location with 'better light', show them some pics then close the pad again and move onto another topic. keep it rolling from there. dont just be all 'cheers, email, bye I'm busy drawing'.
I was thinking along those lines too. IMO you should try shifting a womans attention from your drawings to yourself as soon as possible maybe steering the conversation onto other topics quickly.

After showing them a few pics I would close the pad, make really strong eye contact and say something like "... I'm glad you like my work but of course drawings are no substitute for a real woman. Even the nicest female shape is nothing without a brain and personality ... so tell me something interesting about yourself ?"
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