shut the fuck up, r u a woman, sometimes u just say shit u would LOVE to actually aspire to but its crap.

if angelina jolie threw it on ur toes, ud fuck her

knowin full well she was cheatin on brad pitt & fucked jennifer anistons life.

Phil. I believe I mentioned before that my mum owns a makeup school. It's part of their house. I grew up with models around me and looks mean little to me. A good looking girl is a good looking girl and anyone without a weight problem is capable of that with nothing but the right style, effort and grooming. Everything after standard goodlooking/not is then determined by other factors. Factors that raise and lower their attractiveness based on my opinion of them. A horrible person is a horrible person, I couldn't get it up for someone like that, completely unattractive.

If you believe this so much you're welcome to send anyone you want to try and seduce me. It would be money wasted.

If you have a test then shoot. Integrity testing could be fun.

thats like sayin a girl who works in the gym doesnt like men with hot bodies...


its not an argument, ur just tryng to make ur argument sound justified..

if ur male, then ur primary attraction is appearance. ur not the one special man on the planet.

people instinctively go for aesthetics

we are wired to do so, because good looks means healthy babies.

Test me. Your belief that aesthetics are the be all and end all of men's attractive judgements is ridiculous.

looks aren't everything but you can't wank over a personality

you're not going to approach a girl unless you are physically attracted to her first... then, once you're talking to her, you might start giving a shit about her personality.

talk about killing an argument off in one line

Men are attracted to looks first and foremost FACT, now Jay seriously man stop talking out of your arse its starting to make you look bad.

I love this Thread, i have a couple of points to make:

1)Phil you came across as a high level Male that had much higher value than her boyfriend, she got caught up in a wave of feelings and fantasy from her 'normal' life
The reality hit her afterwards after sex that the fantasy was just that a fantasy and she had to return to her normal life.
i would have felt really bad with her crying on me, id put my councelling head on and try and help her out and how she feels.

2)from the guys point of view i think no matter how you dress things up and what your morals are, there are certain circumstances that will make you deviate, KNOWONE is perfect
I always try and stay away from anytype of morality preach because ive proved to myself time and time again through others and MY OWN experience - people are full of shit and if the right buttons get pressed anyones capable of anything--including me.
somtimes you are just driven by your hormones -- like when you are ultra horny and you end up fucking somone only to cum and think WTF am i doing here and you cant wait to get out of there and get them out of your house.
maybe all the above is true of girls?

Jay - part of me would love for me and Phil to come down there and try and tempt you into the dark side of the force!