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Default 01-06-2011, 09:31 AM

There is no reason to be bothered, embarrassed or worried that it would have a negative impact provided you're not framing it as a negative thing. I tell people everything I've been through, from being a social reject to falling into the industry to being an immoral twat to becoming whatever I am right now. After they fail to truly understand what I do for a living generally giving the O_o "wtf" face I just say "I teach people how to pull" which generally receives a "Oh right, that's quite cool" from women and an even bigger "wtf" face (of disbelief) from men. Both generate conversation and not once has it ever been a negative one, people judge you based on your character and the way you frame things.

Being open about being into it isn't a bad thing, if you frame it in a positive light people will view it positively, I believe the most mainstream and positive response to it I've seen by the admission of narcissistic behavioural traits I have and framing it as self improvement.

Even those that already view it negatively will view it positively if they've already judged your character positively, they will usually admit to not hearing it talked about in this alternative positive light.

Anything can be viewed positively or negatively, it's very easy to concentrate on the potential negatives within the idea of attempting to become better at attracting others. It's easy for people to picture manipulative twats forcing unsuspecting girls unknowingly against their will into doing dastardly things through deception and tricks. It's easy to view the community as seedy or misogynistic - which it is when it's oriented towards simply 'getting laid' as the only goal and viewing women as merely a cum bucket (for want of a better phrase my 3 hours of sleep is disallowing me from thinking of). Now, I'm not saying that sex shouldn't be thought of whatsoever, just that the people involved are important too and merely the desire for sex without care of the partner beyond "fit" is just generally a little bit out of the norm and part of the reason these communities get such a bad rap. The funny thing is that while many people talk this way they generally don't actually think this way and while they do want sexy time they also want it with someone they actually like and want to share an experience with opposed to purely selfish desires, there's a mutual enjoyment there opposed to the one sided misogynistic enjoyment that just seeks to blindside anyone using and techniques in order to fuck as many holes as possible.

Ranting on a bit - when it's framed as a place where guys simply come together to discuss how to be better men and with becoming better men they become more attractive men. Guys that aren't just out to fuck holes, they're out to have fun, they're not manipulating anyone, they're not deceiving anyone, they're not lying about what they're after. They're just meeting more women than most and having more fun than most because they've carefully crafted themselves into more attractive people.

That said, there are assholes everywhere in the world and there are certainly assholes here, in general though guys don't want to be bad, they want to be good. When things are framed well people respond well, when things are framed negatively people respond negatively. I've noticed that when it's framed well people tend to like it and even become more attracted because the concept of someone truly trying to better themselves is universally attractive, whether that's philosophical, intellectual, conversationally, fitness, personal demeanour or all of the above - as is the case with what goes on here - the attempt to improve absolutely everything.

tl;dr People will always judge you based on how you come across, not some ridiculous pseudo society of conniving pickup artists on the internet. People completely disassociate the written concept of an evil society manipulating people when they're presented with a friendly person in front of them that they actually like being around. Knowing whether your hobby is this (let's face it that's what it is) doesn't affect much at all and in some cases makes things easier.

Good luck Chillem, I say don't be afraid of telling her at all, in fact if she likes you (which is clearly the case) it's likely she will want to learn more. Provided you frame things correctly.

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Default 01-06-2011, 06:34 PM

RLA has good points on this it's like if you work out even though peeps say they're doing it for other reasons sex is always part of the motivation.

I think if you get called a player say "dam you got me" or "until I find the one"


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