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Default Flaking - The 0% CLub - 06-01-2012, 08:54 AM

Yo.

Happy new year.

One of my goals this year is to get a 0% flake rate. I don't do too bad at all. I would say that one in five girls will flake on me. The reason I bring it up is that it happened recently. I would like to hear your thought’s on dealing with flakes as I think together we can become the 0% crew. With that in mind, allow me to share my thoughts on the subject.

• First and foremost, as most computer technicians will tell you. Look for the simplest solution first as it is probably that. So if you do get a flake, it probably is because your game wasn’t tight in the first place. Did you make a strong connection? Did you invest time with her? Did she enjoy your company? Lets just say you did have a good initial meeting. Great. Let's move on.

• I lay the ground for a second meet while I am with her the first time round. Suggest you should go somewhere in the future. Throw the idea out, check her response. It is usally positive.

• So you have met this girl. It all went swimmingly. You may or may not have slept with her. You have planted the seed to do something. Should be fine right? Well it is from her where we start to fuck up.

• THE NEXT DAY. I send a txt if they haven’t already along the lines of "Ahoy, good to meet you last night." Just some random statement. If they reply, I will tell them we should do something and arrange the date.

• I feel this is where I am fucking up so pay attention. I propose that the time from the initial meet to the second date is extremely important. The longer the time between the two. The more likely the date is going to fall on its arse and she will flake. This is simply a case of buying temperature. The girl that flaked on me last there was a five day gap. Within that time she obviously lost interest as she probably couldn’t even remember what I looked like or what I was like and put it down to a ONS. Fair enough. My successful second dates have always been within a 48hr window. Sound logical enough.

• So if you genuinely CANNOT see them within 48hrs, what do? Well the phone is your friend and this is when txting is simply not suffice. You must keep in contact by doing it the old fashioned way. Phone the girl. Shoot the shit, talk as if your talking to one of your homies. It's not perfect, but it is a hell of allot better than txting. That, is for 15 year olds.

• If you do get flaked, dont be mad. I dont. Why be so reactive? Think of this, a hot girl will live in abundance and keep a very busy diary. If she cannot attend your date, it may be with good reason. Or again, because your game was off, she had second thoughts and probably a better offer. Let it go, learn from it. I myself do not get allot of free time and cannot drop everything to meet new people. So again, understanding abundance and being unreative will make this a hell of allot easier.

So those are my musings on the subject, let me put it to the floor. Gentlemen?....
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Default 06-01-2012, 10:31 AM

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Yo.

Happy new year.

One of my goals this year is to get a 0% flake rate. I don't do too bad at all. I would say that one in five girls will flake on me. The reason I bring it up is that it happened recently. I would like to hear your thought’s on dealing with flakes as I think together we can become the 0% crew. With that in mind, allow me to share my thoughts on the subject.

• First and foremost, as most computer technicians will tell you. Look for the simplest solution first as it is probably that. So if you do get a flake, it probably is because your game wasn’t tight in the first place. Did you make a strong connection? Did you invest time with her? Did she enjoy your company? Lets just say you did have a good initial meeting. Great. Let's move on.

• I lay the ground for a second meet while I am with her the first time round. Suggest you should go somewhere in the future. Throw the idea out, check her response. It is usally positive.

• So you have met this girl. It all went swimmingly. You may or may not have slept with her. You have planted the seed to do something. Should be fine right? Well it is from her where we start to fuck up.

• THE NEXT DAY. I send a txt if they haven’t already along the lines of "Ahoy, good to meet you last night." Just some random statement. If they reply, I will tell them we should do something and arrange the date.

• I feel this is where I am fucking up so pay attention. I propose that the time from the initial meet to the second date is extremely important. The longer the time between the two. The more likely the date is going to fall on its arse and she will flake. This is simply a case of buying temperature. The girl that flaked on me last there was a five day gap. Within that time she obviously lost interest as she probably couldn’t even remember what I looked like or what I was like and put it down to a ONS. Fair enough. My successful second dates have always been within a 48hr window. Sound logical enough.

• So if you genuinely CANNOT see them within 48hrs, what do? Well the phone is your friend and this is when txting is simply not suffice. You must keep in contact by doing it the old fashioned way. Phone the girl. Shoot the shit, talk as if your talking to one of your homies. It's not perfect, but it is a hell of allot better than txting. That, is for 15 year olds.

• If you do get flaked, dont be mad. I dont. Why be so reactive? Think of this, a hot girl will live in abundance and keep a very busy diary. If she cannot attend your date, it may be with good reason. Or again, because your game was off, she had second thoughts and probably a better offer. Let it go, learn from it. I myself do not get allot of free time and cannot drop everything to meet new people. So again, understanding abundance and being unreative will make this a hell of allot easier.

So those are my musings on the subject, let me put it to the floor. Gentlemen?....

i dont think u can get a 0% flake rate.

i think sometimes u meet a girl, she is at that stage with a lad where she isnt with him officially, she wants to be, but she isnt sure what he is about so she keeps some dates on the go so she doesnt feel like a loser.

once he makes the move, ur gone! not ur fault, its just timing,

my rule is a woman will be in a relationship of sorts every 3 months, and unless u get her at the right time, she is already part way throo the process.

flaking isnt really ur fault all the time! just move past it


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Default 06-01-2012, 12:02 PM

But what about the ones you COULD have had if you played it right. That's what I'm after sunshine.

Don't be mad Phil that I never turned up to our date.
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Default 06-01-2012, 12:54 PM

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But what about the ones you COULD have had if you played it right. That's what I'm after sunshine.

Don't be mad Phil that I never turned up to our date.
i waited for 3 days.

The issue here its like sales,

puttin an order throo when u are unsure is a punt.

sometimes girls think

HE MUST BE A PLAYER, HOW MANY GIRLS DOES HE ASK OUT!

i think ur best way is to be uber confident, but when ur asking them out act a little nervous...

but it depends on a million factors, infact ur need to control this is a weakness, u need to care less


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Default 06-01-2012, 01:00 PM

I'm being pedantic, I admit that.

But I think the discussion will hope those who suck and get flaked on all the time.
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Default 06-01-2012, 01:11 PM

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I'm being pedantic, I admit that.

But I think the discussion will hope those who suck and get flaked on all the time.
then i will do a list for noobs.


First of all

1. Act like its a sure thing. when speaking, dont ask, or use conversations like

IF WE GO OUT, u talk in terms like its happening.

2. If you make plans a week before, keep in touch, dont be scared u will put her off at sme point inbetween. make the keep in touch stupid stuff like teasing texts. not over often, but just enuf that u make her randomly smile a few times between now & the date. (even if u think textin is stupid girls LOVE IT)

3. Create a role play between u... preted husband & wife, pirate & hotsage, Boss & secratary.

"right, ur a proper bossy cow, i shud start callin u boss" then u can text stuff like "im gonna be 2 mins late boss, i was abducted by aliens... they all looked like u"

i dunno, girls like random.

4. Dont be afraid to say stuff that may offend, as long as its done tongue in cheek & with a smile, u can get away with anythin...

(if u start with a girl as cheeky, they accept u as that person, if they know u to be nice, dont start bein cheeky out of nowhere, it doesnt work. But from now on, start cheeky)

5. make plans in case she flakes. with mates or somethin, at least if she starts pissin u about u can go,

"well look im just gonna go ahead with other plans, maybe another time"

then let it the fuck go

DONT REVOLVE UR LIFE AROUND A GIRL

6. Women like to be domineered, not forcefully but just not to have to make the descision ITS A MANS JOB!

anythin else i think of ill let u know


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Default 10-01-2012, 02:03 PM

"and probably a better offer."

She won't get a better offer than you. Even if she doesnt realise that at the time. We study this shit, "he" doesn't.

I posted about 10 girls this week, already had two flakes. One more may also.

Guys I ask you to keep an open mind before I say this. BUt please check out seductionbase dot com. It'ìs mostly an archive of classic posts by early PUAs (some from Speed Seduction and the old school "mystery's lounge") Have a look at the section on flakes. Let me know what you think.

Anyway, I love the post and even it's statistically impossible, it's a worthwhile target

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Default 11-01-2012, 01:00 PM

if you manage to pull of a 0% flake count I will wear a cock ring for a week without taking it off
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