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Default Lets go out for a drink and a bite to eat. How about Thursday 7.30? - 17-01-2012, 01:43 AM

I generally say something like this when I ask a girl out for the first time. Sometimes just drink. I sometimes worry it's too pushy, but then if I ask them if they want to come out I feel less dominant.

Does it really matter? If a girl likes you she likes you right? I still worry about wording of messaging too much! Just as long as your not too keen should be cool.
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Default 17-01-2012, 07:22 AM

That is actually a classic sales technique called a "presumptive close". It is extreamly effective as you are assuming the deal has been done. The only negeative to this is you can get "buyers remorse". But only if you "make the sale" and fuck off without any sort of consulation period to make the prospect feel comfortable.
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Default 17-01-2012, 07:30 AM

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That is actually a classic sales technique called a "presumptive close". It is extreamly effective as you are assuming the deal has been done. The only negeative to this is you can get "buyers remorse". But only if you "make the sale" and fuck off without any sort of consulation period to make the prospect feel comfortable.
ye i think women like the fact u take control, its not the wording, its the person behnd them.

women like a fella who is a man, makes decisions.

also, ye all the shit with women is just sales. but again, u need a good product to use a presumptive close.

if she likes you, she likes you its that simple


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Default 17-01-2012, 08:31 AM

I think it also works because you're taking control but still giving her what seems like a choice.

Essentially you tell her you're going out but at the same time asking her if the time's ok. Works great on internet dating sites...


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Default 25-01-2012, 09:49 AM

I think the wording is negligible when compared to that first meeting upon taking her number. However I do like to tell them that we 'are' going out, rather than asking them.

There's nothing wrong with being keen either, just don't treat them as if they're your only option.


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Default 27-01-2012, 02:18 AM

She said yes btw, but I don't think it was anything to do with the way I asked. I ended up cancelling. Bit rich given my comment in a thread just before this to Evolver!! Just wasn't feeling head over heels for her. Not right for dating.

Part of my No Slag 2012 - no fucking average birds and only date ones I think are amazing. She fell in I would like to have sex with you because you have a fit body, but I'm going to forget about it fairly quickly after. Not average, not amazing. So yes, I'm on a PUA site actively trying to get laid less. Wooooo yeah, who's with me!!
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Default 27-01-2012, 04:44 AM

I'm with ya snake eyes.

Not only do I not have time to chase every girl around, but I frankly don't want to. Most of them aren't worth the hassle. All I want is to be able to choose girls which girls I want when I want them, when they fit in with my busy lifestyle, and be able to sustain whatever relationships I have in a happy, healthy way however I see fit (flings, friends w/ benefits, multiple partners, exclusives, marriage (eek), etc.).

And is sure as shit is nice when you've got girls chasing you around


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Default 27-01-2012, 07:41 AM

i feel ded proud that everyone is starting to take this approach


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