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07-09-2009, 02:07 PM
I've always found some of the terminology in pick up (even the phase itself) a bit weird and at odds with the social side of pick up.
It makes things seem cold and like a scientific process rather than going and chatting up women.
I was talking to Theo (don't know his forum name or if he's even on here) and he called it "creepy pick up guy talk", I like to think of it as "spastic gay talk" (that's nicked from a Frankie Boyle joke about being politically correct)
I don't mind it on forums because it cuts down on the amount of typing but using it in conversation I find a bit weird, I try not to sometimes I do but I feel a bit of a dick when I do.
"I was out sarging and I started neging my target this HB10 and blew away a AFC in a set who was trying to close her, I was DHVing, kinoing and getting ioi's. This AMOG tried it on but I used an AMOG destroyer on him and then I show soi and K closed and then #closed the target"
If any normal person heard this they would think they were talking about a computer game or a business deal.
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07-09-2009, 02:59 PM
I agree.
There are some phrases or terms that capture a concept that would otherwise take quite a bit to explain e.g. 'bitch shield'. In fact I used this term last night in a conversation with Doyle and a girl I work with, when I went on to explain to her what one was it took me about 20 words to do so. So sometimes such terms enable slicker communication. This is definitely the case when typing and using an ancronym, why type 'approach anxiety' when you can just type 'AA'
Then there are those other phrases like 'set', 'HB' etc. where there are already perfectly good alternatives available like 'group', 'girl', 'hottie' etc. In these kinds of cases it is just weird to use the 'community term'. I sometimes catch these terms slipping out of my mouth and think 'I just sounded like a tool'.
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07-09-2009, 03:15 PM
Isn't the idea to be able to discuss this publically, like they all used to do when out sarging or doing workshops, without the target/set cottoning on that they were part of someone running game? Then who gives a toss if it sounds like a video game
But, I definitely understand where you're coming from on this personally; I never use it, because no-one else I know personally deals with Pick-Up.
My cousin is a natural, and you wouldn't think it to look at his large frame, but we peacock frequently and work different sides, naturally. He does this without ever having researched pick-up as far as I know...
Before I knew what peacocking was, I would do it naturally, among other things which have only now been researched upon by me, and explained in the form of these terms and acronyms...
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07-09-2009, 03:32 PM
Is it really peacocking if you don't know what peacocking is?
I wear random scarves, hats and other individual items and always have done. I did / do it because I think they look cool. Not to demonstrate my survival value. Therefore, it is not peacocking.
Also, I have been in a situation where someone was standing nearby analysing m e chatting to a girl for the education of a newbie. We could both hear what they were saying and even though they were using community terminology she understood well enough. It's like when you read A Clockwork Orange, as soon as Anthony Burgess uses some term you know what it means because of the context. Suffice to say I didn't get anywhere with that girl.
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07-09-2009, 03:37 PM
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Isn't the idea to be able to discuss this publically, like they all used to do when out sarging or doing workshops, without the target/set cottoning on that they were part of someone running game? Then who gives a toss if it sounds like a video game 
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Yeh because chicks dig world of warcraft!
They might not know what your saying but you sound like a weirdo and they're going to ask you what the hell your on about if they hear you.
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07-09-2009, 03:56 PM
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Is it really peacocking if you don't know what peacocking is?
I wear random scarves, hats and other individual items and always have done. I did / do it because I think they look cool. Not to demonstrate my survival value. Therefore, it is not peacocking.
Also, I have been in a situation where someone was standing nearby analysing m e chatting to a girl for the education of a newbie. We could both hear what they were saying and even though they were using community terminology she understood well enough. It's like when you read A Clockwork Orange, as soon as Anthony Burgess uses some term you know what it means because of the context. Suffice to say I didn't get anywhere with that girl.
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Hmm, well it might not have been the term I used at the time, but the idea was the same; you look cool to stand out, you stand out to be different, you want to be different to be noticed, and are technically still doing this for the same reason; you are still demonstrating survival value, regardless.
In any case, it was something I did naturally, changing my way of doing so depending on however I changed myself...
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Yeh because chicks dig world of warcraft!
They might not know what your saying but you sound like a weirdo and they're going to ask you what the hell your on about if they hear you.
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Then at least you can be honest and have a talking point 
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07-09-2009, 04:28 PM
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you look cool to stand out, you stand out to be different, you want to be different to be noticed, and are technically still doing this for the same reason; you are still demonstrating survival value, regardless.
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No.
I dress the way I do because it pleases me aesthetically. That is all.
I don't dress to be noticed, or stand out, and I certainly don't dress to be different, yuck.
Even if this does demonstrate survival value, it is not my intention to demonstrate survival value. My intention is only to dress in a way I find aesthetically pleasing. Nothing else comes into it. So it is not for the same reason as someone who peacocks at all.
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07-09-2009, 04:32 PM
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Is it really peacocking if you don't know what peacocking is?
I wear random scarves, hats and other individual items and always have done. I did / do it because I think they look cool. Not to demonstrate my survival value. Therefore, it is not peacocking.
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Your just cool mate... Some people already have it
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07-09-2009, 04:33 PM
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No.
I dress the way I do because it pleases me aesthetically. That is all.
I don't dress to be noticed, or stand out, and I certainly don't dress to be different, yuck.
Even if this does demonstrate survival value, it is not my intention to demonstrate survival value. My intention is only to dress in a way I find aesthetically pleasing. Nothing else comes into it. So it is not for the same reason as someone who peacocks at all.
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Then this is good
I mistook your definition of cool to mean different, as opposed to aesthetically pleasing to oneself, and that is the healthier attitude to have.
I wear what I wear to look different for a reason. Everyone else with the same "background" as me, all dresses the same... It's not part of my culture, or my persona, but there are many overlaps between who I am and many other cultures, so I have bits and pieces from everywhere...
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07-09-2009, 04:53 PM
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Your just cool mate... Some people already have it 
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... there are many overlaps between who I am and many other cultures, so I have bits and pieces from everywhere...
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I'm intruiged. Would love to see your style.
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