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Phenom · **Being Unattached To The Outcome -** 15-08-2010, 10:40 PM

Read this today, thought id share. I like reading Zan Perrion's stuff, some of his stuff can be a bit cheesy but this was a pretty cool article.

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Being Unattached To The Outcome
By Zan Perrion

There seems to be some confusion relative to the concept of "having no agenda" and "being unattached to the outcome".

When I say I have no agenda, I mean I have no hidden agenda. When I meet a delightful girl, she knows exactly what I am about. She knows there is no way she can put me in the "let's just be friends" box. How does she know this? Because I tell her!

I tell her with my body language, my touch, and my words. She knows the difference between me and a guy who is on the make, trying to pick her up. And also the difference between me and a guy who is a "nice guy", asking her out for a coffee, and a subsequent string of frustrating "dates".

And when I say I am "unattached to the outcome", I am really saying:

I am open to all outcomes, but attached to none.

There you go. This is very important. I think some guys are thinking that all I do is approach women, shower them with compliments, and then skip merrily on my way singing "Skippity-doo-dah". No, this spectacularly misses the point.

Of course I would love to get physical with this delightful girl... to explore her in all her glory! That's who I am. And of course I am going to say, "Wow, look at you!" Of course I am going to say, "Run away with me... I'll take you on an adventure!"

An example:

Zan: Wow, look at you in that dress! You look spectacular. I was over there and I saw you standing over here, and I just had to come say hello...

Her: Well, thank you!

Zan: I have never seen you before. Amazing, huh? I usually know all the girls around here.

Her: Hmm, really...

Zan: Of course! Tell you what... why don't you cancel your plans and come out with me this evening? We will celebrate!

Her: I can't. I have a boyfriend.

Zan: (leaning in and winking) Ah, but that's not what I asked.

Her: (laughing) That's true...

Zan: Is that a no?

Her: Hmm, I'd like to, but I can't...

Zan: I understand, of course. And don't worry, I completely respect that you have a boyfriend. But hey, I would be remiss if I didn't come over here and say hello to you, now wouldn't I? And I would be completely out of character if I didn't offer you a shared adventure tonight. That's just my nature.

Her: That's refreshing to hear. In another time and place, perhaps...

Zan: (looking in her eyes and smiling) Yes, I can tell... just by looking at you... in another time and place, you and I would be the most exquisite lovers...

Her: Oh really? How can you be so sure? You don't even know my name...

Zan: Ah, but can you feel that in the air? That sense of destiny, that connection?

Her: (smiles)

Zan: (laughing) Of course you can... look at you... you totally understand what I am saying...

All of the above is said with a smile on your face, and a twinkle in your eye. She will laugh, and shake her head at your audacity, and turn you down, but guess what? She will love it!

There is no presumption here. There is no manipulation. There is no hidden agenda. There is no neediness. There is no rejection. There is no crushing sense of loss because she has a boyfriend. There is no "I am the prize". There is no "If you don't accept what I am offering, then it's your loss". There is no trying to wrest a phone number from her.

There is just you expressing who you are. And that you like nice things, and that in another time and place, you and her would be lovers, and that you are not afraid to walk across the room to tell her that very thing.

And no, you will not apologize for it! She will understand implicitly that this is just who you are, this is the way you celebrate life, and this is your style.

She will never put you in the "let's just be friends" zone. Ever. You have shattered that possibility forever. It doesn't mean that you are necessarily going to get together with her. In fact, you may never see her again. But if you ever do, wow, she will never be thinking to herself, "He's a nice guy, but..."

In an interaction like this, everything is possible. You are dancing in the moment. Nothing phases you - not that she said no, and not that she said she has a boyfriend. None of this matters to you because you are open to all outcomes, and attached to none.

If you have any doubts about any of this, show this to a woman you know and ask her opinion...

Undercat · 15-08-2010, 10:56 PM

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Zan: Ah, but can you feel that in the air? That sense of destiny, that connection?

Her: (cringes)

fixed for accuracy

Phil · 16-08-2010, 05:02 PM

i personaly dont beleive a word in this article, a girl would never say ID LIKE TO BUT I CANT... if a woman wants to .. she fuckin will END OF... altho it may be in america...

in which case those women r idiots

Phenom · 16-08-2010, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil

i personaly dont beleive a word in this article, a girl would never say ID LIKE TO BUT I CANT... if a woman wants to .. she fuckin will END OF...

Mate you do realise he is getting rejected right?

The point he is making is not to be attatched, but be direct, be forward, get blownout and most importantly dont give a fuck.

Just because its coated with a fat layer of wholesome American cheese in the dialogue is irrelevant. I could never imagine having that kind of a convo with any of the women i meet, but then thats not the point of the article is it.

kowalski · 16-08-2010, 06:39 PM

Yes Phil, you can state categorically that no single female would ever say that. It is a totally knowable thing.

Peace,

kowalski

Phil · 16-08-2010, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kowalski

Yes Phil, you can state categorically that no single female would ever say that. It is a totally knowable thing.

Peace,

kowalski

yeh orite i see ur point smart ass, as ever

but i just find most PICK UP bollocks. People dont speak like that.... im not surprised he got jibbed

HOW CAN I COMPARE THE TO A SUMMERS DAY

kowalski · 16-08-2010, 07:31 PM

Yes, Zan is major creepy. Check out his DVD set, it's fucking hillarious.

He lays some pretty cute girls using his own way. He's well into his forties and he's tapping this little cutie.

However, you get the strong impression that it only really works for him and a handfull of other cheesy bastards. Which really drives home that PUA material should be read for inspiration and not instruction.

Peace,

kowalski

Jaz · 16-08-2010, 07:41 PM

Are the Zan Perrion DVD's actually worth my precious time to watch K?

Phenom · 16-08-2010, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kowalski

Which really drives home that PUA material should be read for inspiration and not instruction.

Id extend that advice to any form of self improvement/spiritual material you might ever read.

Thanks again Kowalski

kowalski · 16-08-2010, 07:51 PM

Only if you're stoned as fuck and fancy a laugh. They're piss funny.

Favourite quote:
"Could I seduce your wife or girlfriend? I'm sure she loves you and I wouldn't do that because I'm a good guy ... but ... Yes, I probably could." genius!

I only watched, I think it was the first and last discs. The cheesy background music makes me want to kill.

Peace,

kowalski