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Originally Posted by Loke
Couple of things here I disagree with:
Warm up approaches - Ridiculous notion in my opinion, basically you're approaching to fail or what not. Approach properly all the time and you'll realize how silly this is.
Approaching girls your not attracted to - Again why would you want to approach a girl your not attracted to, unless you're after making a new friend. I approach hot girls that I feel attracted to and my game is far better for it.
Kino - You can go sexual here, just make sure you start slowly and escalate. Always escalate, you don't want her as your new best buddy, you want her to be your girlfriend/sexual partner yes?
-Loke
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Dude we are all different and have varying levels of confidence. Some people can go into any social situation and be the life and soul od the party or atleast have some alcohol which may make them appear more confident.
If you can approach the first girl you see, hot or not and take her back to yoru place and fuck her senseless, great but some of us are not at that level! To be honest I am still working with a handicap and that is my confidence! SO in order for me to feel more at ease I will chat to lesser attractive women so I get in a talkative mood and take positive reference points. It might take 3/4 warm approaches for me to feel comfortable talking to really hot girls and if thats what it takes then so be it.
Its like Mr Miyago says "first learn balance, then fly, nature way Daniel san" lol
We will all need to warm up in some way and some people I suspect use alcohol in the belief it will 'take the edge off" But if you're in the local supermarket and you see some hot girl you're hardly going to take a few cans!
You cannot expect newbies to approach the hottest girls, just like building muscle they have to work up to it otherwise they will become disheartened.
If I start my daygaming after a long lull and I try to open the hottest girl I may either hesitate and not open or open and get nervous, thus in turn getting blown out really harshly which would totally kill my state. But if I have warmed up with basic stuff like asking for directions, approaching lesser attractive girls I can take positive reference from this and even if I get blown out it won't drain my state and I can keep going.
I have had 2 types of coaching and one did not work for me because my first coach was too tough on me. He would push me to open even though i was totally shitting myself and despite my state dropping, to me it didn;t seem like he cared and every time I made a mistake in my approaches he would get annoyyed. I guess because he had been in the position i was in but some people in my view arent' really cut out for teaching. Theres more to coaching than just being good at pick up, having a few lays under your belt and telling your unofficial students "theres a set over there, go approach it"
The other coach I had who i consider a friend was a hell of a lot better. He comes highly regarded by a lot of people and not just from my recommendation. His method of teaching is more tailored towards the needs of the individual so he woudl had me do some warm up sets then by the end of it I was approaching really hot girls and getting amazing reactions.
Warm up approaches are helpful because we are not always in state, we are not always in the mood to be social or meet people! We don't always feel talkative and through merely making small talk with anyone, not just women, we become more relaxed, we unblock whats already in our heads and our later interactions become more comfortable and fun. It is only people who don;t have a problem with being social, who are confident that have no need of warming up.
Many guys will feel nervous approaching women they are attracted to because many of them don't want to mess up! They become too outcome dependant and invariably end up doing or saying something to make the girl dissapear. By approaching women you're not attracted to you can say and do what you want without feeling nervous then approach the women you are attracted to. HOT or NOT even an ugly fat girl can blow you out, dont think for a second that they are all that easy or even that Hot women are that hard but some of us have to take baby steps
I often been out with guys saw beautiful women they wanted to approach and did nothing and when I pointed out lesser attractive women, they didn;t want to because they weren't attracted to them but then I would say "well in that case if you're not attracted to them you, can approach?" One wing i had who I used to sarge with, good looking guy, muscly but could never approach! there were enough attractive women but the age old excuse was that there weren;t any women attractive enough and he didn;t want to approach women he wasn't attracted to but, come on if you're not attracted to someone, approaching them should be easier right? well not if you're not used to approaching women!
Another of my wings', really cool guy once opened an old lady in a bar. Me and my other wing thought he was crazy and was laughing at him but you know what, she was later joined by her daughters who were very nice indeed.