Yo.

Thought I would share my views on the old sarging issue. "Sar-ging”. Silly name tainted with creepy vibes but everything must be labeled said Adam, so it is. Anyways. I have been out with numerous guys in the community over the past few years . I have had stone cold sober nights with stone cold approaches to nights of drunken, drug fueled mayhem with zero approaches. So I have been there, done that and I believe I have just about cracked the right way to go about it. So lets do this thang.

There are essentially two schools of thought, I will describe these at their polar extreme, a contrast that makes it easy to explain and and even easier to understand. in the red corner is our classic pick up chodes, all game, no social vibe. In the blue corner, the social chodes, all vibe, no game. So lets examine these two tribes a little closer:

The Pick Up Chodes

Pros: Take right action and approach ALL night. Talk game ALL night which means they exchange problems and help each other out with game related topics. Wing each other flawlessly and also critique each others performance based on whoever approached last.Generally don't drink or use drugs so save a shed load of money.

Cons: Talk game constantly so that is all they are thinking about. This in turn makes their approaches come across as robotic and unnatural (because they are in their head). Outcome dependent as they have only one goal for the night. No girls? Shit night. Dont dance unless it is "dance floor game". No "vibe" in the group and they give of very low value when in a venue together.

To summarize - creepy.

The Social Chodes

Pros: Actual friends! Have excellent banter between each other and generally do not talk about game at all. Dance because they want to not for gaming purposes. Give of very high value in a venue as they have created their own party. Not outcome dependent, so will generally have a good night every time they go out.

Cons: No approaches. No game.The pack mentality is a major comfort zone, who enjoys being out of there comfort zone? They may have the odd girl approach them but a social guy wont do much. He is too scared to go solo and split from the group. Not great wingmen as yet again there is a general lack of "game" thus a lack of practice and confidence when stepping up to the plate. Plus there is no critiquing each others game as game is not a subject much broached. Drink a shitload of alcohol = empty pockets.

To summarize - Drunken sheep.

The Superior way

If we were to look at the lair guys as the being on the right and the social guys on the left. The sweet spot would be - left of center. That is what I have found anyway. Here are the key points:

Make Friends!
Dont just have wingmen. How in the fuck are you going to vibe with women if have no vibe with the strange guys you met of the internet? That is creepy as fuck. Make friends with these people. if you dont like a person, dont hang around with them for the sake of pick up. It ultimately only brings your value down. When you have a good group of guys that all know each other, it makes it things about a million times easier.

Dont Talk Game!
Only when it is needed, in the pub before the night starts or if there is a need to discuss a particular set etc. and for gods sake don't talk game in a club. This only puts you in your head and thinking about tactics puts you in the dreaded "what do I say" frame. This forum is for talking game, Don't do it in the field.

Take right action!
Dont just be chilling with your boys all night. It is down to you! Set yourself a target of how many approaches you want to make, say five. This helps build that social momentum. "But what if I dont fancy the set Jaz?" Shutdafuckup! You don't have to! You don't even have to approach woman! Just get social man, push your comfort zone. This means that when you see the HB9 with massive tits your AA will be diminished from your warm up and it will be a smooth transition. Otherwise it will be like shifting from first to fifth gear - you wont do it.

Enjoy The Night!
Don't be outcome dependent. If you are only out for the women then you will most likely have shit night. Serious. If however, you didn't get a girl but DID have a fun night with your boys then guess what? Great night.

In Conclusion:

The superior method, is win win. You will always have a successful night. That is regardless of if you get laid or not! You will have high value from your groups good vibe plus you will make the right actions to pro actively get women. Remember: if your vibe is right - they will approach you. Then it is just up to you to decide if you want to bring her into your world or not. Simples. I must stress the hardest part of this is not not falling into the comforting bosom of your group. You must think independently of the group. Do not get all your value from it. If you do this your actions will be dictated from the hive mind . Don’t rely on people to kick you up the arse, do it yourself. You are having fun with your friends but there is an underlying, unspoken truth to the reason you meet up. To be social, to meet strangers and meet women. Winging should be natural, not a forced task. Follow these guidelines and you will never have a bad night, success is there ,but only if you take right steps to achieve it.

Chow.

Nice post, I currently don't sarge with other PUA people (but a good wingman would be handy) and manage to hit the sweet spot when out with normal friends as I just go off solo around the club when ever I feel like it and be social throughout the night and they are pretty used to me doing this. I just need to find the perfect balance to be able drink but not get too drunk.

Winging is usually a calamity, better to do ur own sets knowing u'v got mates nearby that u can return to if ur set blows up.

If I can just reiterate this but a little louder.... APPROACH ANYONE!

When you're at the absolute top of your game and in the perfect state of mind, energy, attitude, etc, it doesn't fucking matter who anyone around you is. You talk to everyone, you vibe with everyone, you are the absolute epicenter of energy in the room.

Get into this mindset and you can walk into a club and walk out knowing almost everyone there. Stop judging people, stop making decisions about who to socialise with and who not to, socialise with EVERYONE. Your enjoyment and thus the enjoyment of everyone you come into contact with is entirely based upon your own attitude to anyone and everyone around you. Think a negative thought such as "I'm not interested in them" and you're already killing your vibe, you might not be interested in them but that doesn't mean you won't have fun!

Having fun keeps your energy and state of mind in the "zone".

jaz musta had a few thanks disappear coz he is on a rant!

"Anyone" and "Everyone" can suck on my ballsack.
Give a shit whether I'm centre of some randoms' realities.


Peace,

kowalski

Not just any old Tom, Dick and Harry! You make the choice who to bring into YOUR reality.

I enjoyed that post Jaz. So much so, I'm now going to iron the wrinkles out my ball sack and serve dinner on it. A*

guys get a grip! the op was hardly ground breaking stuff, its all obvious shit thats been said a million times before...

but i still love u jaz ;P

but you'd be surprised by the amount of people that read it but don't take it in... despite reading it a millions times.