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Cool Jaz's Ultimate Guide To Working A Two Set - 06-08-2009, 01:23 PM

Two sets were my achilles heal for a long time. After banging my head against many walls and banging my crouch against even more woman, I believe I have enough experience to finally tackle these elusive coupled vixens.

Its fair to say that most woman on a night out go in pairs. If you have been to a nightclub in the past century then you will have noticed this. For the aspiring Casanova it is imperative that management of a group interaction is controlled and natural. When dealing with bigger groups its fairly easy to just snatch away a hottie and have her friends non the wiser. But when there is just two, you can run into many problems. We have all locked horns with the "fat mate" at some point in our careers. Lets look at some of the possible scenarios that one can fall foul to when approaching a single sex two set. X will be the target, Y the obstacle.


Scenario 1: You enter set and work on target X, ignoring Y.

The result: While some attraction may be built with X. Y will soon take command and drag X away from you (literally most times). Remeber, her friends are way, way more important than you.

Scenario 2: You eneter set and work on Y to then build attraction with target X

The Result: Attaction is built with Y, target X beleives your into Y then drags here away as your ignoring her (opposite of scenario 1). This is what most guys new to the community beleive to be the right way. My god are they wrong. This scenario can get even worse if X allows the situation to proceed. What you end up with then is a girl who you dont even like following you around the club for the rest the night. I cant tell you how may times this has happened to me. It is awkward and shit.

Scenario 3: You enter set work both X and Y simultaneously.

The Result: Both woman are impressed and attracted but since you did not show your intention towards X at the start you are now there new, faux gay best friend, dancing monkey man. Where this is a good scenario to try at the beginning of the night to just work the room and get state, if you have your eye on a target and try it on there group you end up hearing "your so cool, your just like one of the girls...." trying to run game on target after this can end in tears. Once a woman has decided that your just friends, its very difficult to change her mind.

The Right way:

"So Jaz, if your so fucking amazing, what are we supposed to do exactly?" Well dont worry my cherubs here is my time tested method for pulling a target from a two set even without a wing.

Enter set greeting both girls. For the first minute or so your attention should be split 50/50. Then make a statent of intent (SOI) on your target, this should be quick and barley noticed eg, "havent you got sexy eyes". Before it has had a chance to hit, carry on working both girls. If done correctly there shouldn't even be a reply to your SOI. It will have been noted subconciously by both girls. You have now "marked" your target early on. Around five to eight minutes in, the group should have approved you. You have made them laugh and are have shown what a swell guy you are. If you work the set for more than ten minutes then you risk falling back into scenario 3, so here is the next phase.

Your going to ever so slightly cut out the target, turn your atention to obstacle Y. This is only done for 60 seconds or so (not too long, X will fuck off) Then you make your move. Grab Y (lightly) on the shoulder or wiest and your going to ask her permission for her friends number.

"I think your friend is adorble, do you think I should get her number?"

A short scream will be emitted by both girls. Dont be scared, persist! Now this is vitally important: only UNTIL you get the targets number, you are not going to say a word to her. All your interactions with the target are done THROUGH her friend Y. What you have done her is creted a conspiracy with Y which gains her approval of you and simultaneously builds attration with X. Essentially you have turned the obstacle into your wingman! Now when it comes to the point at which you trade numbers, Y has allowed you both to do so. 99% of the time Y will just fuck off. No really! She will walk away satisfied that she has just played cupid, woman love that shit.

Once you have the number, then go for the kiss baby! You should of course then lead your new girl, back to her friend Y. As you have established yourself as a "couple" now, its easy just to spend the rest of the night with both girls without any bullshit. At the end of the night, you can even leave with your target, after making sure of course your new buddy Y has getting home safely.

And thats if, one bag, two cats.

I thankyou.
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Default 06-08-2009, 01:55 PM

cool stuff.

I have a wing who does a similar (but not identical) kind of thing on street sets, and gets the obstacle to qualify the target for him (in 2+ sets)

'is she a fun girl?'

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'is she an interesting girl' etc


I like the SOI bit, I'm gonna give try to get more of that in my game. cheers
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Default 06-08-2009, 04:10 PM

I like this Jaz. I've gotta say like everybody I have experienced the ugly friend scenario. Defo gonna give this one a try I can see the theory... Time for execution!

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Default 08-08-2009, 06:43 PM

I like this a lot.

It's either this or Kowalski's emergency pork pie with the fat friend senario


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Default 10-08-2009, 09:34 PM

this is a really good explanation and some quality ideas. def gunna give them a go. think scenario 2 is still very effective, but yes, i have definately bin with you on the ugly girl following you around the rest of the night! bad times indeed!
i really like the sly SOI and then stacking forward. will be trying this next time i'm out for sure.
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Default 11-08-2010, 01:31 PM

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I like this a lot.

It's either this or Kowalski's emergency pork pie with the fat friend senario
I reckon this is a story that needs to be shared!
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Default 11-08-2010, 05:43 PM

Sweet m8, I will try this in my next set.


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Default 29-08-2010, 04:46 PM

I give you this; the Laurel Wreath of Most Thanks. Wear it proudly sir. Wear it proudly.


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Default 29-08-2010, 05:11 PM

This is not the most thanked post.


Peace,

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Default 29-08-2010, 05:28 PM

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This is not the most thanked post.


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